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Old 05-02-2023, 06:23 PM
 
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I'm totally on the renters side in this fight, but the people on the Board have left the room and probably won't change their vote based on this.

did the vote already take place tonight and they are just expressing frustration?

anyone?
Only one proposal has been voted on (the LLs) and it failed, they keep making proposals and voting until one passes.
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:26 PM
 
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wow...so they asked for 14%....

wondeer what rent groups will come back with

the protesters want a roll back...thats not happening....so they will be booing the next proposal as well
LLs was 7-10% for 1yr and 10-14% for 2yr
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:41 PM
 
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couldn't hear



what was that last vote?
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:49 PM
 
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The board passed the ranges of 2-5% 1y and 4-7% 2yr. There will now be public hearings and comment with the final vote coming in June.

I smell 2-3% on 1y and 4-5% 2yr. Similar to last year. We shall see!
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Old 05-02-2023, 06:53 PM
 
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They also proposed -1 to 1% for 1 year and I didn’t catch what she said for two year, but that failed 2 to 7.
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Old 05-02-2023, 07:02 PM
 
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They also proposed -1 to 1% for 1 year and I didn’t catch what she said for two year, but that failed 2 to 7.
That was the tenant members. it was 1- to 1 for 1yr and 0 to 2 for yr
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Old 05-02-2023, 07:07 PM
 
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The board passed the ranges of 2-5% 1y and 4-7% 2yr. There will now be public hearings and comment with the final vote coming in June.

I smell 2-3% on 1y and 4-5% 2yr. Similar to last year. We shall see!
As one stated previously there was never any danger of 15% or whatever high numbers first thrown out of passing. Again as stated proposed numbers would likely follow same as last years, and thus far on both scores am correct.

None of this is rocket science, you just have to examine prior RGB orders and what lead to final numbers to see patterns.

It is important to remember much of this angst and moaning is whipped up by certain media sources latching on to something they can exploit (huge rent increases) to generate interest.

There are two parts of RGB; one is the actual board itself that votes upon increases and is under direct mayoral control. Other is a bunch of wonks (civil servants) whose only job is to crunch data and prepare reports, they do not "suggest" or "recommend" anything.

https://citylimits.org/2023/05/02/op...ard-increases/
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Old 05-02-2023, 07:17 PM
 
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The board passed the ranges of 2-5% 1y and 4-7% 2yr. There will now be public hearings and comment with the final vote coming in June.

I smell 2-3% on 1y and 4-5% 2yr. Similar to last year. We shall see!
It's not going to be lower than increases enacted last year. So that takes 2%-3% (one year) and anything under 5% (two year) off the table.

One year is likely to fall between 3.50% to 4.5% (outlier 5%) and two year 5.5% to 6.5% (7% being an outlier).

Over 20-30 years of this farce historically increases voted upon in June closely or exactly match preliminary vote held in May. Only time this hasn't happened (IIRC) was when BdeB got at RGB and forced through those years of 0% increases just to be strong on LLs and make his base happy. That is just not going to happen in June or indeed ever again.

https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-rent-...ilized-tenants
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Old 05-02-2023, 07:39 PM
 
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It's not going to be lower than increases enacted last year. So that takes 2%-3% (one year) and anything under 5% (two year) off the table.

One year is likely to fall between 3.50% to 4.5% (outlier 5%) and two year 5.5% to 6.5% (7% being an outlier).

Over 20-30 years of this farce historically increases voted upon in June closely or exactly match preliminary vote held in May. Only time this hasn't happened (IIRC) was when BdeB got at RGB and forced through those years of 0% increases just to be strong on LLs and make his base happy. That is just not going to happen in June or indeed ever again.

https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-rent-...ilized-tenants
My predictions are within the passed ranges, what's the issue? Feel free to make your own predictions and we'll see what the final numbers are. I hope it's lower in the range, obviously.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:14 PM
 
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*Update*

Public hearings are wrapping up ahead of next week's final vote 21 June 2023

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...djq-story.html

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs...g-rising-costs

https://www.bxtimes.com/rent-stabili...surance-costs/
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