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Old 01-15-2013, 04:38 PM
 
Location: New York City
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There have been serious proposals to make the city and surrounding counties its own state. The district idea is absurd. DC will sooner become a state than NYC become a district.
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: NY,NY
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Why does this city get the weirdest questions of all of the different sections of CityData?
I wonder if it is the result of the decline in American education. Millennials appear to be dumb as SHT!

Why is it that they think and act as if the World started when they woke up this moring????

Little knowledge of AND no *sense* of HISTORY!!

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Why a "district"? Powerless, w/o influence and no electoral votes. Congress would run the city and the Mayor w/b powerless.

Becoming a STATE w/b far more intelligent. Movements for NYC statehood is nothing new. Though I realize you didn't know that when you woke this moring.

New York City: the 51st State - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Secession in New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:14 PM
 
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I just wanna point out, even without NYC the state would not become Republican. For one the majority of the rest of the population lives in heavily Democratic areas across the state (Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany). Downstate is the most heavily populated area of course, and increasingly Democratic. Also, most Rural New Yorkers have more in common with New Englanders than with Southerners.

Jcoltrane and Airborne Guy, the purpose of a message board is discussion. If you don't like it, GTFO. Leave your personal attacks out and provide some real information.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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I just wanna point out, even without NYC the state would not become Republican. For one the majority of the rest of the population lives in heavily Democratic areas across the state (Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany). Downstate is the most heavily populated area of course, and increasingly Democratic. Also, most Rural New Yorkers have more in common with New Englanders than with Southerners.

Jcoltrane and Airborne Guy, the purpose of a message board is discussion. If you don't like it, GTFO. Leave your personal attacks out and provide some real information.
Ever heard of George Pataki or Alfonse D'Amato ? Who do you think controls the NY State Senate ?

Without NYC to balance the upstate vote NY would definitely be ,at the very least ,a swing state with strong R leanings.If you think otherwise you haven't been observing NY politics long enough.Upstate is much closer to Ohio in political temperament than it is to Vermont,Massachusetts,Ct,etc.

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Old 01-15-2013, 05:28 PM
 
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I just wanna point out, even without NYC the state would not become Republican. For one the majority of the rest of the population lives in heavily Democratic areas across the state (Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Albany). Downstate is the most heavily populated area of course, and increasingly Democratic. Also, most Rural New Yorkers have more in common with New Englanders than with Southerners.
Not true, going by the last presidential election, if you take out NYC, Long Island and the counties directly north of the Bronx, NYS has a strong chance of going Republican. Link

Most democratic counties won by a small margin, wile the republican counties generally won by a larger margin. There's deff a case to say NYS would go republican without NYC and its neighboring counties.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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Interesting, then I stand corrected.

Although I had the popular vote in mind.



But with continuing urbanization and diversity, how long before my statement is proven correct?
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Not true, going by the last presidential election, if you take out NYC, Long Island and the counties directly north of the Bronx, NYS has a strong chance of going Republican. Link

Most democratic counties won by a small margin, wile the republican counties generally won by a larger margin. There's deff a case to say NYS would go republican without NYC and its neighboring counties.
Nassau,Suffolk and Westchester aren't even what you would call reliably dem. They swing back and forth as it is and regularly elect R county execs, US congressman,county legislatures,etc.Republicans only lost control of Nassau recently because of scandals and the Republicans are coming back into favor there.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:42 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Jcoltrane and Airborne Guy, the purpose of a message board is discussion. If you don't like it, GTFO. Leave your personal attacks out and provide some real information.
I didn't direct a single word of my post at you. It specifically addressed your question, of which I still make the same assessment. There is no information to provide here. You posed a completely implausible hypothetical.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:46 PM
 
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I forgot a another major con of separating from NYS, our water source. While the city technically owns the land on which the reservoir is located, it's still in upstate NY. I have no doubt the city would end up being gouged by the rest of NYS if the city formed its own state.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Central Jersey
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make it a state not a district
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