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Old 01-04-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Which is a bigger tech center new york or san francisco.
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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Which is a bigger tech center new york or san francisco.



You need to expand your focus a bit-- instead of SF you need to ask about Silicone Valley and instead of New York you need to breakdown the various locations. I just saw a report that the highest number of start up tech companies these days can be found in DUMBO a section of Brooklyn but clearly the Silicone valley has a large head start on anywhere in NYC.

Why are you asking are just curious or are you looking for a job
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Old 01-04-2014, 12:56 PM
 
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I'm just curious, It seems that if new york area hasn't passed up silicon valley it will soon. Does the silicon valley area have anything that is comprable to the cornell tech university on roosevelt island.
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Old 01-04-2014, 05:41 PM
 
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I'm just curious, It seems that if new york area hasn't passed up silicon valley it will soon. Does the silicon valley area have anything that is comprable to the cornell tech university on roosevelt island.
Uhh, STANFORD?
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Old 01-04-2014, 05:44 PM
 
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I'm just curious, It seems that if new york area hasn't passed up silicon valley it will soon. Does the silicon valley area have anything that is comprable to the cornell tech university on roosevelt island.
SF has both Stanford and Berkeley,which are the 4th and 5th best tech universities in the country.MIT is number one by far.Cornell is like number 15 or 20.

It will be a very long time before NYC even approaches SF/Silicon Valley in the tech sphere and it might never happen despite the Cornell/Technion thing.NY will have to beat out both Boston/Cambridge/128 and Austin,Texas first,currently 2nd and 3rd.Washington and Seattle are up there too. I think currently NYC is ranked about 15th.

Even when finished,which will take at least 10 years,the Cornell/Technion partnership by itself will be no match for either Stanford or MIT.It might make it relatively easy for NYC to leapfrog from 15th to 5th place in a decade or so but to get to number 1? Not likely.

It's nice to see NYC finally paying some attention to technology but it it has a very long way to catch up to the others ,which have been building tech infrastructures relentlessly for 50 years.

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Old 01-04-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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SF has both Stanford and Berkeley,which are the 4th and 5th best tech universities in the country.MIT is number one by far.Cornell is like number 15 or 20.

It will be a very long time before NYC even approaches SF/Silicon Valley in the tech sphere and it might never happen despite the Cornell/Technion thing.NY will have to beat out both Boston/Cambridge/128 and Austin,Texas first,currently 2nd and 3rd.Washington and Seattle are up there too. I think currently NYC is ranked about 15th.

Even when finished,which will take at least 10 years,the Cornell/Technion partnership by itself will be no match for either Stanford or MIT.It might make it relatively easy for NYC to leapfrog from 15th to 5th place in a decade or so but to get to number 1? Not likely.

It's nice to see NYC finally paying some attention to technology but it it has a very long way to catch up to the others ,which have been building tech infrastructures relentlessly for 50 years.
Here's US News Ranking. MIT is indeed number one.

Best Computer Engineering Programs | Top Engineering Schools | US News Graduate Schools

Berkeley is number 2, according to this.

Cornell is number 5, according to this.

These ranks cover the computer engineering departments at a graduate level.

So the tech school is not finished and Cornell is already number 5, so that's actually pretty good. Still, NY is way behind Silicon Valley in terms of the tech companies that actually have operations and/or headquarters there. During the Bloomberg era, NYC did expand its technology base (Google, Facebook, and Yahoo! now all have major operations here), along with companies like SAP. Upstate IBM, Samsung, AMD's foundries, and Intel have operations. So while NY is behind, its growing in technology.

The weird thing about New York is that a donation from just ONE BILLIONAIRE can make a huge difference in how much tech research is going to take place. Bloomberg chose Cornell after one of Cornell's billionaire alumnae give Cornell a huge donation for its partnership with Technion. Bloomberg could donate some of his personal money. It will take time before the campus is complete, but the BETA class has already graduated and more students are enrolling (Cornell put a MBA program in their tech school, too). They operate out of Google's building in the meantime.
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Old 01-04-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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When the Cornell/Technion campus is completed ,in 2040,it will have an enrollment of 2,500.MIT already has 10,000,Stanford 6,000. Even if Cornell /Technion became the best tech college in the country it would still be puny in size and let's not even get into the hundreds and hundreds of mega tech and bio tech companies that have already built humongous tech campuses around Boston and SF that are already employing hundreds of thousands of people.

NYC has basically totally ignored tech for half a century and it will take it another 1/2 century to catch up,if ever, no matter what happens on Roosevelt Island.
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Old 01-04-2014, 06:37 PM
 
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When the Cornell/Technion campus is completed ,in 2040,it will have an enrollment of 2,500.MIT already has 10,000,Stanford 6,000. Even if Cornell /Technion became the best tech college in the country it would still be puny in size and let's not even get into the hundreds and hundreds of mega tech and bio tech companies that have already built humongous tech campuses around Boston and SF that are already employing hundreds of thousands of people.

NYC has basically totally ignored tech for half a century and it will take it another 1/2 century to catch up,if ever, no matter what happens on Roosevelt Island.
Yes, you are absolutely right here. NYU is creating a grad school of Urban Science and Columbia will have more engineering options on the 16 acres of land it recently took over. But it will take quite sometime for all this to have a major effect.

But just pointed out NYC's recent investments in tech sector go way BEYOND Roosevelt Island.
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Old 01-04-2014, 06:48 PM
 
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Yes, you are absolutely right here. NYU is creating a grad school of Urban Science and Columbia will have more engineering options on the 16 acres of land it recently took over. But it will take quite sometime for all this to have a major effect.

But just pointed out NYC's recent investments in tech sector go way BEYOND Roosevelt Island.
Yes,it's good to see some action but then again SF already has Berkeley on top of Stanford and Boston has Harvard and many others on top of MIT.

The best thing is that NYC is finally,finally making a concerted effort to build something of a modern economic base beyond finance,which it has rested on almost solely for decades.Well ,that and acculturating immigrants.Sometimes I think that acculturating immigrants is actually the biggest industry here,with finance 2nd.
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Old 01-04-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Yes,it's good to see some action but then again SF already has Berkeley on top of Stanford and Boston has Harvard and many others on top of MIT.

The best thing is that NYC is finally,finally making a concerted effort to build something of a modern economic base beyond finance,which it has rested on almost solely for decades.
Yes. Even City College has been expanding more into engineering.

Another economic base the city has grown in recent years is film/tv. Not only are there tax incentives for things filmed in NYC, you've major film organizations like IFP and Tribeca Film Festival that support independent film and therefore generate economic activity.

One of the good things Bloomberg did was realize the city needed to become less dependent on finance. He foresaw the economic collapse and had already moved the city to economically diversify.
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