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Old 01-09-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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Gentrification, perhaps one of the most controversial topics in the Northeast. It can best be defined as well to do White Americans from middle America, typically yuppies and hipsters, who move into traditionally less wealthy urban areas raising the cost of living.This influx drives out the less educated natives and the character of the neighborhood changes drastically. Delis and Mom and Pop shops are closed and are replaced by Whole Foods, Urban Outfitters and other soulless corporate chains. While some neighborhoods like Bed Stuy needed the improvement other neighborhoods like Greenpoint were safe, working class neighborhoods that did not need to be gentrified. Gentrification has driven out blacks,hispanics, and ethnic whites and as a a result has destroyed the culture and character of these neighborhoods. Many of these transplants have no culture and just accept the one that corporations feed them and than force this culture onto the city. Most of these yuppies and hipsters look down upon natives and derisively call them bridge and tunnel even though they are from Ohio. It's almost as if they think they own the city. many of these transplants will only associate with their own and will never interact with Northeasterners who don't have Ivy league degrees. They are threatening to turn New York's unique culture into that of Anytown,Ohio. Most of them are also hypocrites.Hipsters decry capitalism from their Apple computers on the Starbucks wifi. Many yuppies claim to be progressives who champion the minorities that they claim that the natives have forgotten however they will consider the long term presence of anyone in these gentrified neighborhoods who is blue collar or a minority to be a sign of deterioration. As they get older, marry, and have kids, they move to the suburbs so little Aiden doesn't have to go to school with black kids. Here, they again increase the cost of living for the natives and proceed to drive the natives and their businesses out. Than corporate chains further flood the suburbs. Pretty soon it seems like Middle America will conquer the Northeast. If you are a White American whomis not from the Northeast, know your place and respect our culture. If you can't go back to Ohio.

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Old 01-09-2014, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Didn't you get kicked off last week for preaching violence?
 
Old 01-09-2014, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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This has been discussed to death already.
 
Old 01-09-2014, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Oh yeah that guy, he was kind of extreme. I'm fine with transplants as long as they don't have a sense of entitlement and feel like they own the city.
Do you own the city?
 
Old 01-09-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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Not all are from the tallgrass prairie though. It is what it is, they will continue to come, it will not stop. They are not afraid of the ghettos as many individuals assumed. It's a different era. Those who feel alienated will have to learn how to play a new game and it's called catch-up and one of the rules is money.


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Old 01-09-2014, 08:38 PM
 
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The first wave usually isn't but their successors are the biggest closet racists around. Many are down right frightened of black people. That's why these types decided to move into decisively not ghetto areas like Greenpoint and Astoria.

Not saying a portion are not undercover racist, I'm sure there are some in the batch (this is also applied to every other ethnic-cultural group of people). We also have to be aware some of these people come from environments which are not culturally or phenotypically diverse. Well, Astoria and Greenpoint were never bad neighborhoods but are in ideal locations, that is one reason. Also, people who have some kind of stable flow of good income would not want to move straight into a hardcore ghetto like ENY or BV. We both know if you and I had a few million to spend we both would be moving far away from that. LOL
 
Old 01-09-2014, 09:31 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Let the yuppies have this expensive overpriced outdated dumpster and I'll gladly move back to where they came from.
 
Old 01-09-2014, 09:57 PM
 
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Oh yeah that guy, he was kind of extreme. I'm fine with transplants as long as they don't have a sense of entitlement and feel like they own the city.
LOL. What a loser. Dude, you're repeating the same phrases verbatim. Don't you have something better to do?

This debate is ridiculous, anyway. Your complaint is that too many educated people with disposable income, who couldn't be happier paying huge tax rates and big money to rent in historically poor (and under-served by grocery stores, restaurants, businesses) neighborhoods want to live in "your" city? Get a clue.

I grew up in Sarasota, Fl. Some people there would whine about snowbirds and rude North-easterners. Yet when I was a kid, one county over, not a snowbird in site, they were still having KKK rallies at the courthouse, utilizing near-slave labor in the groves and burning down the house of two brothers who had been diagnosed with AIDS.

NYC doesn't exist in a vacuum, it's a unique city because of it's diversity, not in spite of it.

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Old 01-09-2014, 10:03 PM
 
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This would be a great point if gentrifiers were mostly from middle America, which they are not.

You understand the world so badly--you're going to be pushed around your whole life and you'll never know why.
 
Old 01-09-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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Plus, 3 million plus NYC residents are foreign-born (nothing wrong with that, but why aren't they drawing your ire?). Plus another 600,000 plus live in subsidized housing (again, not a bad thing necessarily), but why aren't they in your cross-hairs? So almost half of the city is foreign born and/or sapping more resources than they provide. And you are upset with a small fraction of the other half that want to pioneer lives in neighborhoods you never once had the cujones to live in (you're a Long Island guy, I remember)? Why didn't you move to Bed-Stuy or Mott Haven in 1992 if it was such a dirt cheap, soulful, gritty wonderland? That's what you prefer, right? Rampant crime, run-down infrastructure and housing, no amenities? Some guy with a beard opens an organic exotic fruit market and renovates a dingy apartment in a place like that and he's the bad guy? Oh he raises rent? What about the guy who owns the property? Pushes out a business? Too bad, this is America, you can't hack it? There's someone behind you who can.
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