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Old 01-28-2017, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Would have to know more, though it's probably unjustified. Presumably the result of tons of overtime pay.
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Old 01-28-2017, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I never understand these posts.... What's the point? No one said you couldn't be one of those professions. Just take the test, see how easy it is for yourself.
A lot of these jobs require a family or personal friend connection to someone already in the department.
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Old 01-28-2017, 09:55 AM
 
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Pick your poison is not a dishonest argument, it's ****ing reality. What exactly your solution? You seriously think that NYCHA is staffed to the extent where no one should earn overtime? Or do you want to put more employees on the payroll so you can pay for that? Do you work at NYCHA and know what plumbers spend most of their time on? I'd like to know where your conclusion that they are "running around half the time looking for parts" comes from, since you seem to know what their day to day experience is. There is backlog of maintenance issues that need to be resolved and not very much money to do it - that's a fact. You deal in conjecture and unless you have some evidence, any evidence that 50% of plumber's daily work time is spent looking for parts, please point me to it since you have now made the claim.
120,000 hours just searching for parts. The article said there were 180 plumbers, so lets say that 100 plumbers work copious amount of overtime/screw the system.
That's 1200 hours a year/plumber searching for parts.Considering that the annual hourly work year has approx. 2,087 hours, that "half the time" figure makes sense.

The ones making the 100K+ in overtime are also the supervisors who have to be on duty anytime a NYCHA plumber is also on overtime.

How productive is someone working 60 hrs/week? Especially at a physical job? Ever thought about that? My father was a union tin knocker for 25 years and 35 hour workweeks took a toll, let alone 60 hour weeks.

Are you really claiming that this isn't a racket? Picking your poison is a dishonest argument when the problem has persisted for many years and the best solution is not to fix it but to perpetuate it?

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As a result, NYCHA's skilled tradespeople such as plumbers, plasterers, carpenters and others spend 120,000 work hours each year just searching for the parts they need, internal NYCHA documents obtained by The News state


Even a few hundred hours in OT is fine but this is just stealing from NYC taxpayers.
If they worked for a private company or owned their own business then what they make isn't anyone's business. Do you see anyone complaining about how much some CEO from a no-name Fortune 500 makes? The only people who can complain are his employees because they're also part of producing for the company.


These guys earn their money from the government forcibly taking someone else's earnings. It's different.

Here is another article from 2016:

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NYCHA plumber racks up $228G in overtime, making more money than mayor and police commissioner

NYCHA plumber racks up $228G in overtime - NY Daily News
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