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Old 08-21-2014, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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No I really do think you are a White trust funder forced to live frugally on a budget if you don't work. You are probably trying to make it as a writer and may be making a little something. But basically you are home most of the time, arguing with people on City Data NYC forum. But I like that part because I love the forum debates. It keeps me from falling asleep on my non retail job. Which I do at home most days and I don't have set hours.
Excellent response. I agree with this.

 
Old 08-21-2014, 10:38 PM
 
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Okay, I will make a concession to you here. DAS and some others accused me of wanting Blacks to remain in low wage retail jobs. I said no such thing. I think for poor people if one wants to use education for social mobility, you'd need to get into a top institution and/or be particularly talented..

How do you suggest that poor people of any race achieve upward mobility? You and I both happen to agree that the "blacks should open businesses and all will be well" is silly.

Few get into top schools these days, even if they can afford it as the demand is too high. So they are left with more ordinary institutions.

Ironically the best way for poor people of any race to expand their social networks is through going to tertiary level institutions. Otherwise they are left hanging around the same folks who couldn't help them, and may actually be hurting them.

Education is no panacea, and certainly doesn't guarantee anything. But education ending at high school guarantees a life of continued poverty, because those jobs are disappearing, and the ones remaining are for machines, and Mexicans.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 10:42 PM
 
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Brazil is bigger than the continental US.

Not really once you consider that most of the Amazon is uninhabitable.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 10:45 PM
 
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, Amazon, etc have wiped out music stores and are killing off the dvd business and bookstores.

Yep. I miss my days reading at Borders with a drink, rather than buying the book. But then I am to blame as it is easier to find a book on Amazon, even though it isn't as much of a deal as it once was, now that the book stores are gone.

Ditto with Netflix and dvd stores.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 10:53 PM
 
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West Indians have done no injury to me.

As for how many Mexicans and Blacks in NYC encounter each other, that is mere speculation on your part. And Mexicans are far from the only Hispanic group in the city.

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I am just saying West Indians are just another ethnic group and AAs interact with them the way they would with any other racial or ethnic group.

We were talking about Mexican food. You claim that blacks love Mexican food because they have Mexican friends. While that is plausible in LA, where Mexicans can be found in large numbers in every demographic category, and so might have significant interface with blacks. Not so in NYC where the vast majority of Mexicans are poorly educated low wage workers, who labor long hours and who experience difficulties even with their interactions with Caribbean Hispanics.

AAs interact with groups who they live among and the most numerous of the people who they interact with are Caribbean people, both Hispanic and non Hispanic Black. NYC is a segregated city. Indeed among the 10 most segregated in the USA, so the vast majority of blacks live segregated lives, regardless as to their ethnic origins.

So yes Writerdude most blacks live the bulk of their lives (outside of the working hours), among other blacks.

And please don't fool yourself that AAs interact with people of Irish, Italian or Chinese ancestry the same was as they do with Caribbean people.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 10:56 PM
 
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Sorry black guys, if u take the time to stop crying racism, and protesting the police, oh and stop killing each other, and instead go to school, don't abandon your children, and get a job, you'll see life ain't that bad. Maybe move out of your high crime neighborhood and provide a better life for you & your family. It's called capitalism, try it, it isn't bad
 
Old 08-21-2014, 11:44 PM
 
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Sorry black guys, if u take the time to stop crying racism, and protesting the police, oh and stop killing each other, and instead go to school, don't abandon your children, and get a job, you'll see life ain't that bad. Maybe move out of your high crime neighborhood and provide a better life for you & your family. It's called capitalism, try it, it isn't bad
How idiotic lol.

capitalism has been a failure for many nations across the globe. oh and by the way plenty of black males have low level jobs in NYC if you didnt know.

Perhaps if you stopped watching fox you wouldn't attribute these behaviors to black men.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 11:48 PM
 
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How idiotic lol.

capitalism has been a failure for many nations across the globe. oh and by the way plenty of black males have low level jobs in NYC if you didnt know.

Perhaps if you stopped watching fox you wouldn't attribute these behaviors to black men.
Problem with capitalism is that it allows exploitation of workers and nations alike. Exploitation is never good and this is the reason behind the making of totalitarian States like the Soviet Union, nazi Germany, socialist Angola and so on. Only a very few benefit from capitalism.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 11:58 PM
 
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I wonder what percent of these black males have a criminal record? Find out what job openings are in NY then train and educate the black men to get those jobs.
 
Old 08-22-2014, 01:08 AM
 
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Problem with capitalism is that it allows exploitation of workers and nations alike. Exploitation is never good and this is the reason behind the making of totalitarian States like the Soviet Union, nazi Germany, socialist Angola and so on. Only a very few benefit from capitalism.
The system of capitalism also needs a permanent underclass to thrive. It is man-made political and economic institutions that underlie economic success or failure. A clear example of this would be the two Koreas, north and south. North Koreans are among the poorest on Earth, while the South are among the richest.
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