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Old 04-01-2015, 09:39 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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A few weeks ago I was leaving for vacation and needed to load my luggage in the car. There was no parking available so I parked my car in front of a fire hydrant and quickly ran into my building and got my luggage out. I must not have been quick enough because when I got back outside there was a parking ticket.

Is there any way I can fight this ticket? Technically what I did violated the law so I may be out of luck.

This whole thing is very frustrating. I had no other option but to park in front of the hydrant to haul heavy luggage which also includes a pet. I used to do it all the time in Washington Heights when I had to haul groceries and never got a ticket.

Do cops have any unwritten rules about when they will ticket and when they will ignore it? Is it a safer bet to park in front of the hydrant or double park next to another car? Does it really matter if you put on your emergency blinker or not?

What do you do when you need to load/unload heavy stuff to/from your car and there is no parking available in front of the building?
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Old 04-01-2015, 09:49 AM
 
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There are no set rules..,it's up to the cop whether to.ticket or not and if they're near their quotas. I would have asked my fiance to get the bags up while I'm in or near the car in the street. If you don't have anyone else that's a risk I would have taken as well. How much is the ticket? Is double parking fine less? Do the lesser of the offenses next time.
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Old 04-01-2015, 09:49 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I always double-park with my hazard lights on but I also live on a quiet two-way street. If any cars come by while I'm upstairs they have plenty of room to go around. If I were doing it on a narrow one-way street I'd probably park by the hydrant with my hazards on and hope for the best.
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:12 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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How much is the ticket? Is double parking fine less? Do the lesser of the offenses next time.
It's a $115 fire hydrant parking ticket.

This feels like its just a occupational hazard of living in NYC. You have to pay the parking ticket tax from time to time.
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:14 AM
 
Location: NYC
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The rule is if you happen to get caught, you'll get a ticket. Yes there are probably times you can park in a hydrant spot overnight and no one will walk by to give you a ticket. I'm not sure how you are going to fight this ticket.
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Old 04-01-2015, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I received an 'obstructing traffic' ticket for double parking with blinkers on, with more than enough clearance for cars to pass without having to even slow down. A ticket-able offense is a ticket-able offense.
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Old 04-01-2015, 12:00 PM
 
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I received an 'obstructing traffic' ticket for double parking with blinkers on, with more than enough clearance for cars to pass without having to even slow down. A ticket-able offense is a ticket-able offense.
damn.. COP must really need to make his quota.
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Old 04-01-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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While I sympathize with you over parking, the cop saw the car in front of the hydrant, which it was, he wrote a ticket and went on his merry way. you came down a few seconds later and saw it. I know the fustration, I really do.

better off to double it with hazzards, or have someone stand there waiting till you come down.

As a Brooklyn resident, i fully get it.

It is like one of those " oh drats" moments...

also, I believe you have to be 15 feet away from a hydrant, i keep a rope in my kar with a knot on each end, equalling 15 feet, if Im ever in doubt, I pull the rope out and measure. i so do not want a 115 dollar ticket.
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Old 04-01-2015, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Nomad
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Read this:
The Truth about Broken Fire Hydrants & Parking Tickets

And then fall down the rabbit hole by reading more about non-working hydrants in NYC... tons of articles on the number of them, and how the city still gives people tickets for parking in front of them. Your head will explode.
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Old 04-01-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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A few weeks ago I was leaving for vacation and needed to load my luggage in the car. There was no parking available so I parked my car in front of a fire hydrant and quickly ran into my building and got my luggage out. I must not have been quick enough because when I got back outside there was a parking ticket.

Is there any way I can fight this ticket? Technically what I did violated the law so I may be out of luck.

This whole thing is very frustrating. I had no other option but to park in front of the hydrant to haul heavy luggage which also includes a pet. I used to do it all the time in Washington Heights when I had to haul groceries and never got a ticket.

Do cops have any unwritten rules about when they will ticket and when they will ignore it? Is it a safer bet to park in front of the hydrant or double park next to another car? Does it really matter if you put on your emergency blinker or not?

What do you do when you need to load/unload heavy stuff to/from your car and there is no parking available in front of the building?
Law is clear; you cannot park on or within fifteen feet of a fire hydrant. It makes no difference the purpose/reason and or if you leave your hazard lights flashing; if NYPD or Traffic sees the violation you are subject to being issued a ticket.

Blocking/parking on a hydrant is foolish because it does not change anything. Both traffic agents and local NYPD are all from the same local precinct and as such know their area pretty well. That is they "know* where hydrants are and or should be (by law they are a certain distance from each other), thus will spot the deception easily.

Do NYPD or Traffic have discretion? Yes. Have seen persons park "near" hydrant in front of my building for days and not get a ticket. Someone else comes up behind them and within <one hour gets a ticket.

The only gift from this law is that one can "stand" in front of or near a hydrant long as a properly licensed driver remains *in* the vehicle to move it at the approach of FDNY. Your kids, elderly mother, and or anyone else who cannot legally operate a motor vehicle do not count for such purposes.

As for fighting the ticket the answer is "no". You can *try* to see if a judge will reduce the fine but quite honestly for your time and effort it maybe just cheaper to pay and take it as a teachable moment.
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