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I wont get into a back and forth debate with you over it but I can tell you that what I said is very true. I grew up in the "hood" and have seen it happen countless times. I would quote these things I've heard from blacks to other blacks regarding "acting white" for speaking proper english instead of ghetto slang but it will probably get me banned on this site.
Just because it didnt happen to YOU doesnt mean it doesnt happen.
And just because you saw it doesn't mean that represents all Blacks or even most Blacks in the hood in the 21st CENTURY!
Contrary to what you're saying many Blacks do want their kids to move up socioeconomically and it does happen.
And just because you saw it doesn't mean that represents all Blacks or even most Blacks in the hood in the 21st CENTURY!
Contrary to what you're saying many Blacks do want their kids to move up socioeconomically and it does happen.
Never said it represents ALL blacks living in the hood in the 21st century, but it IS an an issue nonetheless.
I'm also sure that many blacks want their children to move up the ladder and do better in life. Unfortunately for many of these children, they've been dealt a bad hand from birth. Its truly sad.
Like I previously stated, I grew up in/arounds the projects from childhood till my late 20's. I knew I wanted better and worked towards it. Many of my friends and people I grew up with chose different paths and till this day are still on the same block, doing the same things, talking about the same nonsense! I left that neighborhood 8yrs ago and still come around from time to time. I'll get the usual.."Yo whats up? You look like you're doing good player!" I'll also get the "oh look who it is. This dude thinks he too good for us. Go back to your white neighborhood". Of course they say that last comment in a joking manner but I know deep down inside that's how they truly feel.
Many people (especially those from the "hood") often make bad choices in life due to poverty and frustration. It's a fact though that many of these same people hate to see their peers succeed and progress in life while they remain stagnant. Yes there are some good people who like to see someone make it out the "hood" and make something of themselves. There's also many more who dont! That's a fact!
I went back to the original article and read the 1st few paragraphs. Apparently the good school (PS 8) is currently overcrowded...whats the solution for that problem? For the new families that moved to the area and did not do their homework (no pun intended), I guess the overcrowding of their then zone school at the time was not an issue?
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I went back to the original article and read the 1st few paragraphs. Apparently the good school (PS 8) is currently overcrowded...whats the solution for that problem? For the new families that moved to the area and did not do their homework (no pun intended), I guess the overcrowding of their then zone school at the time was not an issue?
Some people want it all.
They want to live in the greatest city in the world.
They want kids.
They want to live a progressive, holier than thou lifestyle without having to conform to those same progressive standards.
Education is a cultural trait. Cultural trait is not synonymous with ethnic or racial trait.
Wanting your children to do better is not the same thing as doing everything in your power to make that happen. Are there historic and socioeconomic reasons that make it very difficult for black parents in the hood from providing a great education for their children? Of course. It must be immeasurably tough raising your kids in the hood where there are no positive role models in terms of education for kids.
A parent in the hood needs to give everything they have and put their children's education first. Do most do that? I doubt that.
I'm Jewish and education is just a cultural part of being Jewish. Education is pushed just for the sake of it sometimes. My family was from the Soviet Union and even though higher education didn't lead to wealth or a higher standard of living in the Soviet Union, Jewish families still pushed it on their kids.
I'm getting my masters. My brother, aunt, and fiancee also have a masters degree. It's just part of the culture.
Education is a cultural trait. Cultural trait is not synonymous with ethnic or racial trait.
Wanting your children to do better is not the same thing as doing everything in your power to make that happen. Are there historic and socioeconomic reasons that make it very difficult for black parents in the hood from providing a great education for their children? Of course. It must be immeasurably tough raising your kids in the hood where there are no positive role models in terms of education for kids.
A parent in the hood needs to give everything they have and put their children's education first. Do most do that? I doubt that.
I'm Jewish and education is just a cultural part of being Jewish. Education is pushed just for the sake of it sometimes. My family was from the Soviet Union and even though higher education didn't lead to wealth or a higher standard of living in the Soviet Union, Jewish families still pushed it on their kids.
I'm getting my masters. My brother, aunt, and fiancee also have a masters degree. It's just part of the culture.
Did your family flee the Soviet Union as refugees. I know plenty of Jews that left Soviet Union with refugee status.
Did your family flee the Soviet Union as refugees. I know plenty of Jews that left Soviet Union with refugee status.
Yes. I still have my original "green card" (it was paper and white actually with a handwritten A no.) that said "STATELESS" under home country. lol When we boarded the train in the Soviet Union towards Poland, the Soviet authorities confiscated our passports.
From the time we left (me and my brother were under 3 and my parents were only in their late 20's) it took us about 8 months until we boarded a plane to the US.
We went through Poland, Czeckoslovakia, Austria, Italy, and then to the US. No cell phones or internet. Very little money. Couldn't speak any fo the foreign languages.
I went back to the original article and read the 1st few paragraphs. Apparently the good school (PS 8) is currently overcrowded...whats the solution for that problem? For the new families that moved to the area and did not do their homework (no pun intended), I guess the overcrowding of their then zone school at the time was not an issue?
A solution is for the dumbo yup sterling families to send their kids to the bad school where there is lots of space and take over the pta. It's a strategy that worked elsewhere in Brooklyn and should not be too hard to copy.
Education is a cultural trait. Cultural trait is not synonymous with ethnic or racial trait.
Wanting your children to do better is not the same thing as doing everything in your power to make that happen. Are there historic and socioeconomic reasons that make it very difficult for black parents in the hood from providing a great education for their children? Of course. It must be immeasurably tough raising your kids in the hood where there are no positive role models in terms of education for kids.
A parent in the hood needs to give everything they have and put their children's education first. Do most do that? I doubt that.
I'm Jewish and education is just a cultural part of being Jewish. Education is pushed just for the sake of it sometimes. My family was from the Soviet Union and even though higher education didn't lead to wealth or a higher standard of living in the Soviet Union, Jewish families still pushed it on their kids.
I'm getting my masters. My brother, aunt, and fiancee also have a masters degree. It's just part of the culture.
I personally know mobster Jewish people and ghetto Jewish people right here in NYC, and other subgroups of Jewish people who quite clearly do not value education. The ones in organized crime tend to hide behind owning stores, restaurants, or bars (have to explain where the money comes from to the government).
So clearly being Jewish does not mean you speak for or represent all Jewish people. Nobody can do that for a race or a religion.
Back to the hood, so now you speak for and make representations for what people in the hood do and what kinds of resources they have? Wow!
Contrary to popular belief many people in the hood do work. Some even have good enough jobs to buy houses or co-ops in the hood. Some even make enough money to send their kids to religious private schools in the hood. And yes a number of them do go to college.
Go to ANY CUNY campuses and you'll see large numbers of minority kids who are from hoods studying to get their degrees.
Is this everyone from the hood? By all means no. But there definitely is social mobility from the hood and people do move up and out. And over the years it isn't a rare thing to happen. Many famous people from Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor were born in hoods.
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