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So, one way or another gentrification is going to hit East New York. So, what's left after that? How far can this process go, Canarsie? I mean, what's left? The suburbs of Canarsie? Flatlands? Starret City? I think, it's preordained-by the powers that be and greed. Once Brooklyn rivals Manhattan, there's going to be no choice but to gentrify the whole Brooklyn, like Manhattan. We are witnessing the future of NYC, right before our very own eyes.
I don't think ENY will have any gentrification anytime soon unless Brooklyn becomes a major hub that rivals Manhattan. ENY might attract those looking for an affordable option to live in NYC. Actually people who got priced out of immediate areas of Brooklyn relocate to ENY and Carnasie Brooklyn. Also ENY is far from job centers of Manhattan and may only serve those who work in service industries that are in Manhattan or immediate areas of Brooklyn that are near Manhattan. Overall prices may go up, but I don't think gentrification or elements of gentrification will ever pass Broadway Junction, Utica and the multiple church avenues.
These areas will eventually gentrify, but it will take a LONG time. I mean, Canarsie is practically suburban. It's soooo far from where hipsters/yuppies want to live. Closer in, around Broadway Junction, yeah, that will gentrify (it might already be gentrifying somewhat). Bed Stuy and Brownsville are gentrifying like crazy and ENY is the next neighborhood out.
First let's wait and see if Bushwick, Bed-Stuy and Crown Heights gentrify first. So far they've just went from super ghetto status to regular ghetto status.
All three areas have tons of gentrification. They are all very expensive.
You cannot get an decent-sized, intact Bed Stuy house for less than 1.5. Even far east Bed Stuy, closer to Broadway Junction, it just isn't going to happen. I know, because I'm in the market right now, and I can't find anything (yet) that's decent and in my price range.
Oops, I meant Bushwick, sorry! Bushwick is gentrifying like crazy.
Brownsville isn't yet gentrifying, but it is improving. Probably 5-10 years from what most people consider gentrification.
I was just in Bushwick and Bed Stuy this weekend visiting a relative. I can not say the area is gentry at all and is still very hood Maybe Western Bedstuy and Western Bushwick is gentrifying like crazy due to proximity of Williamsburg?
I was just in Bushwick and Bed Stuy this weekend visiting a relative. I can not say the area is gentry at all and is still very hood Maybe Western Bedstuy and Western Bushwick is gentrifying like crazy due to proximity of Williamsburg?
I think we are defining gentrification differently.
To be blunt, I think you're defining an area based on whether you see "hood" type people. Usually lower income native New Yorkers, often (but not always) African American or Puerto Rican, often (but not always) living in housing projects.
I would define gentrification based on housing prices, the incoming stores, restaurants and services, and the population trends in a community.
So is Bed Stuy gentrified? Using the first definition, definitely no. Using the second definition, definitely yes.
I see plenty of "hood" in Midtown Manhattan. Does that mean that Midtown isn't gentrified? There's no "hood" in Bensonhurst. But I don't think Bensonhurst is remotely gentrified. Bed Stuy will always have some lower income types even if homes cost $20 million instead of $2 million because the poor in NYC don't live in market rate housing anyways.
I was just in Bushwick and Bed Stuy this weekend visiting a relative. I can not say the area is gentry at all and is still very hood Maybe Western Bedstuy and Western Bushwick is gentrifying like crazy due to proximity of Williamsburg?
As NOLA said, in those side streets along Bushwick ave, near the J train. The houses are legit going for $1.5-3 million. Its pretty crazy actually, especially since even proximity to Manhattan is rather questionable.
First let's wait and see if Bushwick, Bed-Stuy and Crown Heights gentrify first. So far they've just went from super ghetto status to regular ghetto status.
Exactly. Bedsuty, Bushwick, and Crown Heights are still ghetto (just not super ghetto) and if the whites who moved in moved up socioeconomically they will leave for better places. Many of them will leave the city in a few years (to be replaced by other recent graduates and NYU, New School, and other college students who can't afford to live closer to where they go to school).
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