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Old 02-28-2016, 06:20 PM
 
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Some people are stuffing themselves: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2546207
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:43 PM
 
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Money doesn't buy class. White trash Italians and Irish.
It's funny that these same people will be up in arms about minorities on welfare but don't realize that instances like this are multiples worse.
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Old 02-28-2016, 08:40 PM
 
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The Police Unions or fraternal orgs and whoever represents them should disavow them.
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Old 02-28-2016, 10:36 PM
 
Location: NYC
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OH no, not another hypocrite cop.

I am so shocked.

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Old 02-29-2016, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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There should be a claw-back provision to stop this abuse of the system.
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Old 02-29-2016, 04:16 AM
 
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More than 75% of FDNY retirees are on disability. That's the way things are done. If a city department was causing 75% of its employees to be legitimately disabled for life there would be outrage and lawsuits and calls for reform. But disability is viewed as just one of the benefits of the job.

FDNY, NYPD disability pensions: High number draws scrutiny | SILive.com
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Old 02-29-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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The savage, i cant believe peoples taxes are paying for this low-life.......

Oh wait on this forum these words usually only applies for a certain group of people that are of darker skin pigmentation, whoops.
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Old 02-29-2016, 08:24 AM
 
Location: NYC
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It's only recent that more and more people are caught as many municipalities and states are connected and sharing more info about people who are on disability or issues while being on the books. Most of these programs have very high rate of abuse. I know a number of workers that took short-term but they really are ok, just use that as an excuse to go somewhere for a long vacation and they have buddies or someone in the system that enabled them to get approved.
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Old 02-29-2016, 09:47 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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This will somehow be taken as racism (like everything else), but...

It seems as if private employers (celebrity security agencies/agents) are confident in his physical ability, while the department wasn't.

These types of pensions aren't simply handed out on demand (at least not in the PD...). The pension board deemed him unfit to be a police officer per the standards of the NYPD. What private employers decide after that is their own business. For the most part, this type of security is simply presence anyway, so they care more about his size than anything else.

Being awarded a disability pension under the strict rules of the board is not fraud unless fraud was used to obtain the pension, which is often the case with welfare-programs. An example would be the numerous women who allow their baby-daddy's, sons, grandsons, etc to live with them after having become prohibited convicted felons.

As long as he followed the rules pertaining to employment until what would have been his 20th anniversary, then he committed no crime. If you take issue with the pension laws, you need to stop lock-step voting for democrats who write them. I never vote for pro-union democrats even though I benefit from their largesse. If the policies change, so be it. That's what responsible citizens do.

If he committed fraud in obtaining the pension initially, then he is a savage leach and should be punished accordingly.
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Old 02-29-2016, 01:15 PM
 
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That is really the underlying issue...departments with low standards who let anything go without a fight. Change that system that enables people like in the article. Part of me doesn't blame the guy who is milking it - plenty of people would do the same...but maybe not be so smug about it! But the bigger issue is reforming that. Politicians and lawmakers can't do much because they are backed by the public unions and tax payers don't want to be too vocal 'lest you be called a heretic that doesn't think all cops everywhere are heroes.
That "can't blame them" mentality is exactly why it persists. That's a big part of the mentality, especially in the NY metro area. "If yous don't beat da system, yew looze!!"

Everything is a ripoff, everyone is a con artist. Why is it so expensive to live here? This is a big part of it.
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