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Old 01-04-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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Why do all these pampered brats keep moving to lower class neighborhoods? I am more than sure that they can you afford to live where where hood people can't afford, so what is really up with that?
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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Why do all these pampered brats keep moving to lower class neighborhoods? I am more than sure that they can you afford to live where where hood people can't afford, so what is really up with that?
From my personal experience, the majority of the transplants I know all come from middle class families, so their mom and dad really can't front them any money like that.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:46 PM
 
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From my personal experience, the majority of the transplants I know all come from middle class families, so their mom and dad really can't front them any money like that.
Absolutely. There is this great myth that transplants are rich kids when the reality is they come from middle (or "upper" middle class) homes. Sure, they may have grown up in a nice roomy house in suburban Ohio but it's unlikely that their parents can afford to pay the mortgage on their house AND supplement the rent on a $3500/month apartment. Keep in mind one can have a very comfortable lifestyle in the Midwest on a $100K HHI, but that same salary won't go as far in NYC and it certainly can't support living in both NYC and Ohio. If the parents were financially savvy enough, they would have saved to minimize their children's college tuition burden but once that's done, the "transplants" are usually on their own financially speaking.
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Old 01-04-2017, 09:05 PM
 
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Absolutely. There is this great myth that transplants are rich kids when the reality is they come from middle (or "upper" middle class) homes. Sure, they may have grown up in a nice roomy house in suburban Ohio but it's unlikely that their parents can afford to pay the mortgage on their house AND supplement the rent on a $3500/month apartment. Keep in mind one can have a very comfortable lifestyle in the Midwest on a $100K HHI, but that same salary won't go as far in NYC and it certainly can't support living in both NYC and Ohio. If the parents were financially savvy enough, they would have saved to minimize their children's college tuition burden but once that's done, the "transplants" are usually on their own financially speaking.
The other thing few neighborhoods have actually gentrified to the extent that Chelsea has and become a truly well off neighborhood. Most of these young middle class transplants eventually move out, to be replaced by more middle class transplants.

I'm not sure why people here seem to want to say transplant=Midwesterner. Young people from all over moved to NYC, including immigrants and this has been going on for a long time. So has the high rates of turnover.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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Why do all these pampered brats keep moving to lower class neighborhoods? I am more than sure that they can you afford to live where where hood people can't afford, so what is really up with that?
Native New Yorkers (or those living here for a majority of their lives) naturally have a much different perception of the city than someone who is looking to move here or just arrived. If you've been living here, you should have a general idea of where you'd feel comfortable living and which parts of the city feel unwelcoming or unsafe to you.

To a transplant, the city is one big unfamiliar playing field....they don't really know (beyond what they can research on the web) exactly what any neighborhood is like, they have no real context to know that. I think back to a time when I was considering a move to San Diego for work....trying to figure out what was safe and what wasn't was quite difficult. A lot of areas that looked just like any other part of SD on google maps were apparently "the hood." That was a huge contrast to the way I see NYC...i know every neighborhood and its borders and have long rooted understandings of what each one is like.

So, I can see a transplant not being able to understand the subtleties between neighborhoods in Brooklyn. To them, Brownsville can look and feel the same as other parts of the city while a native New Yorker would know that area is arguably the least pleasant part of the borough. I too find it annoying when I see the proverbial "Young professional moving to NYC, is [insert most dangerous intersection in crappy neighborhood here] safe " post, but I kind of get that they have no real gauge of what's reasonable and whats not, especially when they all probably assume that even the hoods here hip thanks to what happened with Williamsburg.
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Old 01-05-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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Native New Yorkers (or those living here for a majority of their lives) naturally have a much different perception of the city than someone who is looking to move here or just arrived. If you've been living here, you should have a general idea of where you'd feel comfortable living and which parts of the city feel unwelcoming or unsafe to you.

To a transplant, the city is one big unfamiliar playing field....they don't really know (beyond what they can research on the web) exactly what any neighborhood is like, they have no real context to know that. I think back to a time when I was considering a move to San Diego for work....trying to figure out what was safe and what wasn't was quite difficult. A lot of areas that looked just like any other part of SD on google maps were apparently "the hood." That was a huge contrast to the way I see NYC...i know every neighborhood and its borders and have long rooted understandings of what each one is like.

So, I can see a transplant not being able to understand the subtleties between neighborhoods in Brooklyn. To them, Brownsville can look and feel the same as other parts of the city while a native New Yorker would know that area is arguably the least pleasant part of the borough. I too find it annoying when I see the proverbial "Young professional moving to NYC, is [insert most dangerous intersection in crappy neighborhood here] safe " post, but I kind of get that they have no real gauge of what's reasonable and whats not, especially when they all probably assume that even the hoods here hip thanks to what happened with Williamsburg.
You think it's hard identifying good and bad neighborhoods in NYC? Give an example of a neighborhood that can confuse a transplant into thinking it's safe when its not.
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Old 01-05-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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like ocean hill isnt????? youre hilarious
It really isn't when has the last time you have been there? Lets compare housing stock along Decatur st or Halsey.

Which place has 1.5 million dollar brownstones being sold. Okay.
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Old 01-05-2017, 05:31 PM
 
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It really isn't when has the last time you have been there? Lets compare housing stock along Decatur st or Halsey.

Which place has 1.5 million dollar brownstones being sold. Okay.
Cut it out. Park Slope it ain't.


Call me when it looks like Smith Street.

PS: She's renting not buying.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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You think it's hard identifying good and bad neighborhoods in NYC? Give an example of a neighborhood that can confuse a transplant into thinking it's safe when its not.
Most of gentrifying brownstone Brooklyn falls into that bucket. Even the "not yet gentrifying" ares of ENY and Brownsville have well kept rowhouses that look totally fine from google images/street view.
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Old 01-05-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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Cut it out. Park Slope it ain't.


Call me when it looks like Smith Street.

PS: She's renting not buying.
I'm comparing it to the Bronx NOT park slope.
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