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Or this is America and racism is and has been an issue here from inception...which is why many people, including white ones, understand this incident happened because the men are black. There is no “they were” other than “they were black”. That is the real issue and you proved it by assuming they had to have been doing something to be arrested. Or worse yet people apply different rules for blacks to fit a narrative of them being trouble makers and deserving to be arrested or worse (i.e. he looked at me funny so I felt threatened and called the cops - and yes historically there are cases of black men getting lynched for looking at a white woman the wrong way).
If one can not grasp that reason, then they are living in a massive and imaginary post racial bubble.
A few months ago I saw the manager of a McDonalds in Queens ask a white guy who had was dozing off to leave. He refused (or maybe was drunk or high) and the manager called the police. The cops told him to leave which he did after a minute or two. It was the right thing to do and race had nothing to do with it.
Can't remember when my NY Public library card expired. Probably about 10 years ago when smartphones first came out en masse and now internet was at your fingertips.
I just saw the two men being interviewed on Good Morning America. I noticed they had issues articulating themselves, their attire should have been thought out more, and I was surprised none of them decided to groom themselves to be on national TV. One of the guys still has twists in his hair and was popping gum the whole time. In my humble opinion, one should take pride in the way they dress. If one doesn't care about the way they dress, why should someone care to treat them with respect? Unfortunate, but true.
If they dress that way for Good Morning America, I am sure they may dress even worse for a job interview. They probably wouldn't even get hired at Starbucks if they came in dressed like that.
Still shocked this happened because almost every employee at Starbucks in NYC that I have been to is black, Spanish and Blatino.
I feel bad to a certain degree for the manager who was fired. I hope she sues Starbucks and gets every penny.
Unless there is proof that her actions weren't racist (i.e. they argued AND they spoke first, or they sat down and stared at her) she wouldn't really have case.
Maybe the manager felt threatened by their appearance? You know how some people clutch their purse in an elevator if someone suspicious enters? It is similar to that.
What qualifies as being racist? I notice a lot of people on this site use that word, but it doesn't make sense at times.
People always say that they notice I eat a lot of watermelon and drink orange soda, and say that I may have been black in another life. That never offends me. Do you think that is racism when someone talks about the food one eats?
I have also been denied access at Starbucks restrooms for not buying anything and I am never offended or say it is racist in any way. I understand those are the guidelines. Not all Starbucks do, but some have denied me restroom access, which I am fine with.
I bumped into a neighbor the other day wearing sweatpants and I felt so awful and low class, but I was heading to the gym. In my humble opinion, I like to dress presentable. Sweat pants has negative connotations.
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