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Old 07-20-2018, 03:37 AM
 
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I know plenty of black people who eat food that's not West Indian food or Soul Food, so yes I do think various types of restaurants could survive in SE Queens, especially the more middle class parts. Plus I see plenty of black people dining in such restaurants, including most of the ones I've been to on Cortelyou Road.
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Restaurants need a certain amount of non-neighborhood residents to frequent their establishments in order to survive. People don't go to SE Queens to eat. There is also a lack of diversity. And people don't typically chaseafter West Indian food like they do Asian, Mexican, European, etc...
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Old 07-20-2018, 05:04 AM
 
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Restaurants need a certain amount of non-neighborhood residents to frequent their establishments in order to survive. People don't go to SE Queens to eat. There is also a lack of diversity. And people don't typically chaseafter West Indian food like they do Asian, Mexican, European, etc...
Baldwin has an Indian restaurant despite not being a destination neighborhood, and not having that big of an Indian population. There are comparably middle class parts of SE Queens, so I'm pretty sure a greater variety can survive there than what currently exists.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:25 AM
 
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Baldwin has an Indian restaurant despite not being a destination neighborhood, and not having that big of an Indian population. There are comparably middle class parts of SE Queens, so I'm pretty sure a greater variety can survive there than what currently exists.
There is either a small Indian population scattered about that congregate at this restaurant, and/or there isn't another Indian restaurant within a scaled travelable proximity. SE Queens is close enough to the rest of Queens by this measure.
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Old 07-20-2018, 06:26 AM
 
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If you think one can survive, and there is not one there, maybe open one up yourself.
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Old 07-20-2018, 07:39 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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It’s interesting that save for Murray Hill, the Port Washington Branch stations in Queens away from the subway system all have larger ridership numbers than the various LIRR stations serving southeast Queens. Those stations are also oftentimes located at the commercial centers of the neighborhoods they serve.

I wonder if the Atlantic ticket that LIRR rolled out will have significant ridership increases for those southeast Queens stations and if so, whether or not that increased foot traffic will make it more sustainable to open a range of businesses near those stations.

I’m also curious about a frequency of service comparison among those stations and land use policies around the stations. Even station spacing can be quite different with the stretch between Jamaica and Locust Manor far in comparison to the spacing among the Port Washington branch stations in Queens that are far from subway service. Maybe those are factors in the dearth of dining options.

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Old 07-20-2018, 02:49 PM
 
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I love pizza...... Love it. love it .love it.......

The best pizza I have ever found are in Italian neighborhoods ( or once were Italian ) especially if it has been established for many many
years. But don't take my advice. Get on google maps and find its score .You get the idea.

Always ask the pizza owner if he cooks his pizza sauce twice...... yummmmmmm.
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Old 07-26-2018, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Queens, NY
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One thing I will say is that quite a few "premium" establishments have opened up in Jamaica within the past year. There's the new Chipotle, Panda Express, and Starbucks around Jamaica Ave. and 160 St. and interestingly enough, there's a Boston Market that will be opening at 165 St. and Jamaica Ave. on the first floor of the old MTA 168 St. station building which is farther from the E train terminal at Parsons. This and the other real estate development going on is just some of a stretch of very slow change in the area.


Maybe the development wave will go down Merrick Blvd. eventually. If it does happen it probably won't be for decades but who knows.
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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Yeah I should have said West Indian in general, but mainly Jamaican. But the options seem limited to mostly fast food, West Indian food, and some soul food. The soul food I've had so far in SE Queens hasn't been the best, but I need to try more places.

I do know of a Guyanese place in Laurelton, pretty good Rotis.



Yeah Southeast Queens overall isn't poor, although South Jamaica, Springfield Gardens, Rochdale, and parts of the Rockaways don't have particularly high median income.

Corona isn't even super poor either, it has a median income I'd consider low, but it's considerably higher than the super poor parts of the city like Brownsville and much of The Bronx.
Soul food shouldn’t be eaten in Queens. Harlem has the best soul food. Bed Stuy not to shabby either!

Yea Corona doesn’t have as much public housing as Brownsville either
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Old 07-26-2018, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn the best borough in NYC!
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I know plenty of black people who eat food that's not West Indian food or Soul Food, so yes I do think various types of restaurants could survive in SE Queens, especially the more middle class parts. Plus I see plenty of black people dining in such restaurants, including most of the ones I've been to on Cortelyou Road.
As long as the restaurant sells dope food and the word gets around town it will survive.

Also the Caribbean is mixed racially so Chinese and Indian food isn’t something that’s new to Caribbean’s
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