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Old 04-15-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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Awful, pretentious place.

Althought, for those of you that have never experienced the culture of the Mid West, Pacific Northwest, and to an extent, even the Southwest, no need to spend hundreds at kayak. Just pay your $2.25 train fare and check out the epicenter, Bedford and N. 7th. This is the true Generica culture of their youth.

Take care. In Florida they hate NYers who escalated housing prices a few years ago, created a housing bubble, and now have plunged the state into a depression.

 
Old 04-16-2012, 02:12 AM
 
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Sorry you got it wrong.

So who will you prefer to live next door to. Some one who lives in the underground economy so "looks poor" and so lives off the govt (part of their underground economy hustle), or a home care attendant and her husband who works security in a large corporate building downtown?

That first group isnt leaving and their kids' role models are scamster parents (usually absent father and a successive round of boyfriends). Apparently these are the folks you wish to live next door to. Education optional and no one in the household sees it as being of relevance.
Uh, no....YOU GOT IT WRONG. You said the people I want to live next door to are the "scamsters" and baby mama crowd? What are you smoking? I specifically said this is NOT who I want to live next door. THUGS.

Doesn't matter, your post didn't even make sense. I had to read it like 3 times and it still sounded about as good as a Britney Spears song.

I've lived all over NYC. I know what it's about, I know what the neighborhoods are about. I don't care about "home care attendants" or "corporate buildings". This is about a) People who belong in jail or an island together where they can kill each other OR b) hipster "yuppies".
PERIOD.

Now, get it - If you are more fed up with riding the Bedford L train and seeing rich kids than seeing worthless scumbuckets standing on the street corner and robbing people for a living you need your Got Damn head checked.
 
Old 04-16-2012, 06:05 AM
 
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Just skip all this mess and read to the bold

Well, here is the thing. Back in the 1970's nobody really cared about society. The whole entirety of voting, working class youths were mostly anti-society, even if they were working class youths. Everybody was against America. The drug crack downs/ fake evidience planting, was just a way to demobolized the Civil Rights movements. I believe that advertisment of a 1950's blonde drinking Coca-Cola sums up how fake the "restoration era" known as the "Commercial 80's". That is the reality. Their are tons of films, that shows how a true native New Yorker actually thinks, from any of the five Boroughs were living. In fact the five boros all together were pretty popular, not just Manhattan.

Flash foward twenty years. The hip-hop "party culture" some how got dubbed as the "prison culture" and fell into the "rap culture" groups. Believe it or not these were seperate things. "Popular culture" basically took over an entire generation, and the 1990's was just plain golden for those people from the 1970's.

Now about those "yuppies"? A yuppie is a person who has money set aside, and everything alined for them. The point is that, they are doing all of these things, that people want to do, as young people, but using money.
Go to a prom, in a limo, with an escort date. Go to night clubs, have big parties with stage performers. Have a garage band, or even work on cars, take trips to various places in the world without parents. Now the reality is that these people are doing these things with money. It is not like they are busing their way threw college working in coal mine. You go to a college, and see these people, somebody is paying their fare. Everybody else, is using federal funding ( America's blood money ), and have barely went anywhere or did anything outside their community, asides raise a family, have some get togethers.

Now about fitting in, they don't have to worry, because most of them are whiter then rice, mash patatoes, cream corn, and a milk shake ( joke from a proffessor ).

From what I understand a Hipster is an college influenced person, who wishes to be apart of the cool crowd. However they are just people who went to college on time, and now they are stuck in that "coolness limbo"
that all people wish they were like. It is like people from the 1970's but they are stupider, slimer, and just plain boring. No no no, in fact I view them as being, what people really wanted out of college, but they barely could get it. Then what makes them even more insane, is how a whole bunch of them, are either Latino, associated, and act very angry.

A hipster is basically the children of people who were merged at one point or another. They were the melting pot and were able to forget about everything that was part of that melting pot. Like any commoner, after dealing with real Americans, real people of USA for a long time, the last thing you want is to be around anybody Americans. However "hipsters" put them selves in situations where people can take advantage of them at the same time. To make things worst alot of them, are actually very defensive, and violent in their manor. It is like they never have had enough of violence ( because they never exprienced any ). I believe the term Juvenile Delinquency, promote cultural efficiency never applies to them at all.

Then when you put Hipster + Yuppie + inexprienced people + people with high pay = idiot who pays too much for a living space, and spend money on crap - have children, and settle down. So a hipster is what was leftover from the 1990's college crowd, and 1970's crowd but now................
they have money and they are highly associated with non-heterosexuals.

Think about an ideal breed of people, who are soft, society loving, who are 1% everything other race, understands culture and do not mind non-heterosexuals. However they still carrier that bias, towards non-europeans types without even knowing at all.


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Thread after thread is the same old story: "Hipsters" ruining the city, "Yuppies" driving out the innocent, hardworking families, and middle America white folks moving in and "white washing" communities.
You have a person who is 20-30 years old and making a traditional starting salary, of 30 dollars per hour. Instead of having a family, they are still living the college life. You have now reinvented the 30 somethings, and gave birth to new implusive consumers.

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Why are so many painting these people as the "problem" with this city, yet seemingly provide a free pass to all the thugs, hoodlums, and wanna-be gangstas that are the REAL problem in NYC?
It is youths who do not understand respect towards others, and are going threw Tri. Tri is when somebody is trying to be an adult, but do not understand what an adult is. So they have to Tri many things. Which is normal for all adults.

Painting the real citizens of New York, as criminals is not going to help them
be any more normal. The problem is that people do not understand the various oppertunities, they instead go for the same ones they have been told. They do not understand their is money in everything, and how to make usage of these oppertunities. So instead they get trapped into a web of college, not knowing how to climb the moutain.

Then comes big-headed ness. When people are not freindly and do not want to take advice from each other. They go to college, trying to attain that lifestyle of they believe is perfection, but instead they fail miserably.

You want to help get rid of the bad people stop buying, cell phones
flat televisions, or fancy new computers. By forcing people to upgrade not only limits other people. I understand that people of X beliefs, might want items that "do not mold, or rust" but Americans do not take care of products.

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As of late the popular people to despise are these groups, who are NOT involved in crime, who are NOT dependant on welfare/government programs, who are NOT the ones littering, destroying property, or vandalizing, who are NOT hanging out attacking people or otherwise making communities unsafe, etc.
Their are violent people everywhere, man. You know what a ghetto is? A ghetto is a place where people from another nation lives, the same exact way, as if they never left another nation. You think those houses with the big garderns, and fancy decors hold good people inside? No they do not.

About goverment funded programs. This is one of the benifits of America. I believe a highschool teacher, Grandparent of mine, said it best ( you bless your red hinnies, your in the US-1997 ). People in other nations do not have the funding or privlage measures that US citizens have. I hate going to the super market and seeing people using foodstamps card, but I also see little old divorced/seperated women, and their fatherless/ motherless children using these cards. I see old people taking advantage of their SS benifits
to live in 4,000 dollar apartments they have been maintaining for over 40 years. Their are young parents who have been kicked to the cirb by their fueding/hatefilled parents with indifference towards cultures and motives.
Young cherry faced mothers who say "hi" and "good moring" but lives inside a slum, that is right next to the highschool they previously went. It drives me insane. I also see men who were thrown out of thier yuppie homes for wishfull thinking, surviviing on homeless shelters, figuring out a way to get out. Children going to school for free, and getting an education, in most places that are non-exsistant, along with an opertunity to go to college for
free. If their was no goverment funding their would be no rotation of spending.

Yes their are people who do not deserve these things, but you will never see them. They blend in. Yes sticking a bunch of low-lives in one area is terrible, but replacing them is not any better, because now you have people in a mini civil war. One between the foriegners, non-natives and the ones who actually can tell you the history of that street, corner, or tree stump.

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These people are simply bringing mainstream American values back into many communities that had NONE, providing new investments, and new attention onto these communities. They have just as much right to live in these communities as the 3 generation welfare recipients that have a stranglehold on many areas.
These people are outter towners, and college students who are like children who can't get around without a buscar, depositing money into a place where nobody has any money, to waste. They go to college bars, and college clubs, and pretend to be young.

One person from the Netherlands, and another from Alaska. They come into little ole New Amsterdam, and see commercialized people for the very first time. A European English man, who has hair like a 1960's hippie decides to get a hair cut after realizing his not coot enough for his peers. That is what
happens when people in NYC who are still working have to deal with.
 
Old 04-16-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Uh, no....YOU GOT IT WRONG. You said the people I want to live next door to are the "scamsters" and baby mama crowd? What are you smoking? I specifically said this is NOT who I want to live next door. THUGS.

Doesn't matter, your post didn't even make sense. I had to read it like 3 times and it still sounded about as good as a Britney Spears song.

I've lived all over NYC. I know what it's about, I know what the neighborhoods are about. I don't care about "home care attendants" or "corporate buildings". This is about a) People who belong in jail or an island together where they can kill each other OR b) hipster "yuppies".
PERIOD.

Now, get it - If you are more fed up with riding the Bedford L train and seeing rich kids than seeing worthless scumbuckets standing on the street corner and robbing people for a living you need your Got Damn head checked.
Wow and you talk about caribny making no sense... So there are only two options within all the poor working class communities in NYC a)thugs or b) hipsters/yuppies... Gotcha... Yet in your braindead post you question someone who actually made perfect sense...

Fact is, caribny is 100% right and it wasn't even hard to understand for someone with a third grade education... Since you didn't understand though I'll break it down into key points for you and i'll bold it so you don't have to read the whole thing... Wouldn't want you hurting yourself in the process having to read it three or four times to understand basic english...

The Drug Dealers, section 8/welfare users are going nowhere in this city... Majority of these people have more money than the poor working class. So when these "productive" hipster members of society move into these neighborhoods and start displacing locals, (as sobroguy likes to talk about) that guy hanging out in the bodega at 3am is gonna still be there for you but that hard working immigrant family that didn't bother you at all and only contributed to the idea that NYC isn't filled with your two stereotypes moves out because they have been priced out... Yes, that is definitely the solution...

Two things I want you to check out once they put the statistics for this week... Check out the 81st precinct in Bed-stuy, 83rd precinct (Bushwick) the 90th precinct (East Williamsburg/Southside) and the 88th precinct (Fort Greene/Clinton Hill)... These are the statistics for some of the precincts in Brooklyn North that have been "gentrified" in recent years... The 73rd through 79th precinct haven't experienced this "gentrification" as strong as the other precincts in Brooklyn north and the epicenter in the 94th at its worst in 1990 recorded 8 murders... It was never a bad area to begin with just a working class neighborhood with a mix of whites/hispanics/blacks...

Now when you check the listed precincts I mentioned you'll notice that every single one has seen an increase (some major) in the crime and murder rate... But wait, I thought you said the thugs were leaving
 
Old 04-16-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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These are the people in your community...

From poverty to prosperity: Immigrant finds success with tamales - NY Daily News

Put your prejudices aside and understand that majority of the people that live in these areas are just like this lady... Escaping bad situations to make a life for themselves over here... Unfortunately these are the same people that are getting displaced to house a group of hipsters that while many came from money still live a very low class lifestyle but would tell you otherwise...
 
Old 04-16-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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Okay.. A little confused here.
I'm young, into the arts, moving to NYC to pursue them. I'm rather broke (no financial help from parents ever) and completely on my own to support myself. I won't be able to live in Manhattan so I will have to live in a 'cheaper' neighborhood.

I feel like some people would automatically assume that from the above I am now a hipster? Just because some people have trust funds, doesn't mean we all do. At the end of the day, its just America's youth.
 
Old 04-16-2012, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Okay.. A little confused here.
I'm young, into the arts, moving to NYC to pursue them. I'm rather broke (no financial help from parents ever) and completely on my own to support myself. I won't be able to live in Manhattan so I will have to live in a 'cheaper' neighborhood.

I feel like some people would automatically assume that from the above I am now a hipster? Just because some people have trust funds, doesn't mean we all do. At the end of the day, its just America's youth.
So you're young, broke, no financial support, and want to move to one of the most expensive places in this country... Brilliant...

Why don't you find a job where you live, save up enough to live comfortably for at least six months and then look for decent alternatives that aren't in the hood... you can always trek to the "hip" areas from your safe and cheaper neighborhood... it isn't a crime to live in a safe area... it doesn't make you any less cool either...
 
Old 04-16-2012, 11:49 AM
 
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Wow anon. Very judgmental and very rude. It is brilliant because its the city with the most opportunity for my career.

I never said I wanted to live in the hood.

Thanks for that.
 
Old 04-16-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Wow anon. Very judgmental and very rude. It is brilliant because its the city with the most opportunity for my career.

I never said I wanted to live in the hood.

Thanks for that.
If you can't deal with honest comments like that then there is no way you can make it in this city... You gotta have thick skin in this city... People tell it like it is and honestly that's all I'm doing... You think you're the only one that thinks that way... 90% of these hipsters feel like their part of town is boring, lacks jobs and opportunity so they come here and many aren't able to make it... And this is with some sort of financial support... How do you expect then to survive without any back up at all... You think positive attitude alone is gonna carry you...

You have to wake up and understand reality... Grow up a little bit... Find a stable job where you are and when you have enough money to afford a realistic studio apartment from 1100-1300 and have enough saved up not only for rent but for utilities and other expenses as well for about six months then you can realistically think about moving to this city... It's not gonna be soon but reaching goals never comes quick... That's the problem with the hipster community among other youths as well... This generation has been coddled so badly that they don't understand failure or perseverance and need instant gratification and acceptance... It doesn't work that way...
 
Old 04-16-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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lol..
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