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I do know based on what you posted so far. You have no clue. If you were 58 you'd know that Greenpoint never looked better, never was safer or could offer more than now. You would not miss the days when it was not the way it is today.
My god man. It is not even worth it anymore. But for the last time, the entire city looks better than those days. Including the Upper East Side. And Forest Hills. That in no way shape or form means that Greenpoint or Astoria were neighborhoods in ruins like some of the other areas. They were working class neighborhoods with crime rates compared to the rest of the city, very low. If broken sidewalks and stinky delis equates to "ghetto" to you; then you and I are on different planes of existence. There really is nothing else to it.
Yes the Greeks/Italians/Middle Easterners/South Americans in Astoria and the working class Poles in Greenpoint were heroically saved by the influx of Capt Yuppie and his brave legion of foodies...
Didn't Greenpoint use to have a bad rep 20 years ago? Anyway, those areas I mention were never bad, but they have significantly improved.
I can't help but call some of you ignorant or stupid.
The Jeckyll/Hyde change in NYC resulted from the housing and finance boom of the early to mid 2k's. While the rest of the country had the benefit of the housing boom, NYC also massively benefited from the finance industry boom. Both brought a massive amount of capital formation into NYC.
My father is a tin knocker and worked on commercial/government buildings in Manhattan during the boom. He still fondly remembers those years because it was just a great time to see Manhattan changing in a profund way in such a short period of time. The amount of capital flowing in for construction was massive and it had equally massive secondary effects on other markets and boroughs.
Claiming that hipsters or yuppies changed the city is completely nuts. The tech bubble laid the foundation for an improving NYC and then the housing and finance bubbles finished off the job. Hipsters and yuppies took advantage of the changing landscape but they were not the catalysts.
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My god man. It is not even worth it anymore.
No it is not. You are clearly clueless.
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But for the last time, the entire city looks better than those days. Including the Upper East Side. And Forest Hills.
And why did this happen? Why is the city and even its suburbs like Hoboken looking better than before?
You really dont see any correlation bwtween city's health and Guliani/Bloomberg policies of gentrification and resulting influx of yuppies/hipsters/yupsters to the entire city?
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That in no way shape or form means that Greenpoint or Astoria were neighborhoods in ruins like some of the other areas.
Absolutely yes. Greenpoint was for most part forgotten by the city hall with terrible schools and shoddy city services. I love my neighborhood but it was an unsafe, dirty dump.
I am really glad it came around and I didnt ditch it for NJ like many of my firends.
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They were working class neighborhoods with crime rates compared to the rest of the city, very low.
Were? Are you saying that Greenpoint and Astoria are not a working class neighborhoods now? Or is the working class comprised only of plumbers and construction workers, comrade?
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If broken sidewalks and stinky delis equates to "ghetto" to you; then you and I are on different planes of existence. There really is nothing else to it.
Compared to what Greenpoint is today pre-1990 simply seems like it was a huge Polish and Puertorican dump in constant decay. Not like East New York but nothing like beautiful Greenpoint today.
Anyways, you seem to propose that Greenpoint somehow got worse while based on my personal opinion and opinions of all my friends still living there, it got so much better. Are you really saying Greenpoint was better before gentrification?
And why did this happen? Why is the city and even its suburbs like Hoboken looking better than before?
You really dont see any correlation bwtween city's health and Guliani/Bloomberg policies of gentrification and resulting influx of yuppies/hipsters/yupsters to the entire city?
Absolutely yes. Greenpoint was for most part forgotten by the city hall with terrible schools and shoddy city services. I love my neighborhood but it was an unsafe dump.
Were? Are you saying that Greenpoint and Astoria are not a working class neighborhoods now? Or is the working class comprised only of plumbers and construction workers, comrade?
Compared to what Greenpoint is today pre-1990 simply seems like it was a huge Polish and Puertorican dump in constant decay. Not like East New York but nothing like beautiful Greenpoint today.
Anyways, you seem to propose that Greenpoint somehow got worse while based on my personal opinion and opinions of all my friends still living there, it got so much better. Are you really saying Greenpoint was better before gentrification?
How you can even come to the conclusion that I am suggesting Greenpoint was better in the 80's shows me how batsh1t insane you are and how your level of reading comp is subpar at best. You're really not worth the time bud. Be careful of all those cracked sidewalks and scary deli's out there.
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So you agree Greenpoint is better off gentrified and we can thank Gulliani/Bloomberg and hipsters/yupsters/yuppies for all the progress they made there and all over the city. Thank you.
I wish I could find a cheap apartment in Greenpoint, I would love to live there.
There's no more cheap housing in NYC apart from rent stabilized and section 8.
I live in a solid middle class neighborhood in Brooklyn (median income here is 80k per the census) and there are no detached single family homes under 800k.
With 10% down and at 4%, a household would need to bring in ~130k AFTER taxes in order to really afford the home. This is why rents continue to climb.
So you agree Greenpoint is better off gentrified and we can thank Gulliani/Bloomberg and hipsters/yupsters/yuppies for all the progress they made there and all over the city. Thank you.
Wow, I've already explained to death that the entire city is vastly different than it was in the 80's. It's a completely different universe. Much of it having to do with what wawaweewa posted up there that you undoubtedly covered your eyes for.
But honestly you can't even figure out the quote function on this site, so this pretty much shows me what I'm dealing with here.
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