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Old 10-15-2018, 08:20 AM
 
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All the sudden, all the transplants disappeared, poof, gone, and all that remained of the population were people that were born and raised in (and never left) the area.

What would the new population count be?

Would crime increase or decrease?

Would the transportation run on time?

How would you get your food?

Would the entire city just decay?
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:28 AM
 
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chicken little II?


Let me tell you, "noting like dat is never happens", ok?
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:44 AM
 
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Dude a transplant is anybody who was born outside of NYC and relocated here to live for whatever reason. Long Islanders and Westchester are transplants too.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:48 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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It's not bait. You want a serious discussion on this, you have to clear up all the parameters.

Are you including foreign immigrants too? If you have zero people coming into the city, things will be very different. Even declining cities always have some people moving in.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:48 AM
 
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Anyways. The City would suck. All you real New Yorkers would be acting like some twisted version of small town New Hampshire or some xenophobic New England town = sucky.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:54 AM
 
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It's not bait. You want a serious discussion on this, you have to clear up all the parameters.

Are you including foreign immigrants too? If you have zero people coming into the city, things will be very different. Even declining cities always have some people moving in.
Don't make it like all that matters.

Nobody in NYC wants to be around judgy xenophobic small town New Englanders. You guys wrote the book on how to form mindless mobs of gossippy townies, make torches and carry pitchforks = think of the Salem Witch Trails.

To sum it up. Im right and you're wrong. NY sucks without maladapted transplants.
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Old 10-15-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: JC
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What's a native New Yorker?
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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Diversity, including the diversity from “transplants” (international ones and national ones) makes for a dynamic and interesting city. If the city had no transplants it would not be nyc and instead would be a stale and insular place. Even the often joked about mid-western transplants make for an interesting addition. For example, I was out to dinner this weekend with a smattering of transplants: 3 from Ohio/Michigan, 2 other from Westchester, 1 from Puerto Rico, only 1 “native” from the BX (and even she had foreign born parents). 2 others were there but I didn’t catch where they are from. Anyway, the conversation was dynamic and interesting and at one point we even discussed midwestern culture which revolves around attending state fairs with cow competitions and demolition derbies and the cuisine which is mostly casseroles made from canned goods.
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Old 10-15-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, NYC
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The city wouldn't function, its services are too expensive. You'd kill its tax base and cause another 1975. Isn't the city like 1/3 native, 1/3 transplant, 1/3 immigrant? That's some seriously detrimental population loss probably akin to Detroit.
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Old 10-15-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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All the sudden, all the transplants disappeared, poof, gone, and all that remained of the population were people that were born and raised in (and never left) the area.

What would the new population count be?

Would crime increase or decrease?

Would the transportation run on time?

How would you get your food?

Would the entire city just decay?
This is a pretty simple answer that doesn't require politics or pc answers. Just ask anyone old enough that lived here pre-hipster and/or pre 3rd world immigrant invasion.

I'll give you the answer. The Gen x'ers, most of now who would be in their 40s or 50s, would own homes in most of the outer boroughs where they were raised. This means strong ethnic neighborhoods like we had back in the 1980s. And, of course, poor AA neighborhoods would largely have remained crappy. The city would mostly have a European look to it (ethnics, not WASPs from the midwest). White flight would not have happened as Gen X would have been able to afford to stay.

Manhattan is a different story and will always remain unique to the city, full of rich/poor, etc, etc, etc.
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