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Old 08-29-2019, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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NYPD officers will be very hesitant to make arrests. Why risk your career and life over an arrest in an area where the police are not appreciated. So J'Ouvert 2019 may be like the old wild west.
That too. We shall see...
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:01 AM
 
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The problem with this parade is its always the innocent bystanders who get shot.
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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glad you some of your best mates are Caribbean otherwise I would start to wonder about the tinge of racial animosity in your question. Anytime you have a large swath of new yorkers coming together across economic backgrounds the recipe for aggression and its byproduct of violence exist. Having done all of the major parades - PR during the high street harassment days, St. Pat's during the drunken chaos days, Gay Pride is frolicking run amok days, and jouvet/west indies day parade - there isn't any more or less violence than any of the others just more coverage by media of it(arguably because the police interactions are different around it). Honestly the SantaCon I see more physical violence around that which is daunting cause it starts early morning through the night and there is no cornered off 'route' for it. While I love (love) explaining to my nieces and nephews every year why santa/elves/reindeer are peeing openly and fighting -- i kinda realize it is a matter of time before there is gun play.



Really?
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Old 08-29-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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What's the over/under on shootings?



I'll go with two separate shooting incidents and one fatality.
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Anyone who downplays the violence this gathering attracts, or attempts to say it’s no different than any other parade, is delusional. Period.
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:43 AM
 
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there isn't any more or less violence than any of the others just more coverage by media of it
Ah yes all of those shootings and stabbings at the St Patrick's day parade, the gay pride parade and the mermaid parade.
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Old 08-29-2019, 11:32 AM
 
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"Why risk your career and life over an arrest in an area where the police are not appreciated. "

As always, because you're getting paid to do your job, and if you have any self-respect or work ethic at all instead of being some kind of entitled parasite, you'll do what you're taking all that money for. No one gets a guaranteed paycheck of "appreciation." (As usual, cop defenders make cops sound worse than cop critics do!)

That said, man, they should probably cancel this event. For whatever reason, clearly it's everyone's favorite opportunity to settle beefs, and innocent people keep dying, which is too awful. (Disproportionate arrests could be the result of overpolicing, but the shootings aren't.) I don't think it's going to stop until the event does. The community really needs to get itself together here. Maybe a few years off will clear heads and motivate people to pressure their brethren to keep it in check.
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Old 08-29-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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glad you some of your best mates are Caribbean otherwise I would start to wonder about the tinge of racial animosity in your question. Anytime you have a large swath of new yorkers coming together across economic backgrounds the recipe for aggression and its byproduct of violence exist. Having done all of the major parades - PR during the high street harassment days, St. Pat's during the drunken chaos days, Gay Pride is frolicking run amok days, and jouvet/west indies day parade - there isn't any more or less violence than any of the others just more coverage by media of it (arguably because the police interactions are different around it). Honestly the SantaCon I see more physical violence around that which is daunting cause it starts early morning through the night and there is no cornered off 'route' for it. While I love (love) explaining to my nieces and nephews every year why santa/elves/reindeer are peeing openly and fighting -- i kinda realize it is a matter of time before there is gun play.



LOL Reality is hard to accept huh? Keeping making excuses.
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Old 08-29-2019, 06:17 PM
 
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When's the last time somebody got shot at a non-J'Ouvert parade?
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Old 08-29-2019, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York, United States
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They'll probably be continuing the miles of barricades, spotlights, and checkpoints again.
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