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Serious question, what has AOC accomplished in her nearly 2 years in office? All I know her for is Killing the Amazon deal and tweeting stuff at people. Anything else noteworthy?
Serious question, what has AOC accomplished in her nearly 2 years in office? All I know her for is Killing the Amazon deal and tweeting stuff at people. Anything else noteworthy?
What does she actually have the power to accomplish, seriously? Asking for a friend.
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This could get interesting. A conservative Democrat is the closest thing the south Bronx can ever get to a full blown Conservative Republican.
In queens there is a heavy push to elect Michelle Caruso-Cabrera (https://michellecc2020.com/) to unseat AOC. There are dozens of postcards and pamphlets everywhere and thousand of text message surveys being sent out
The Democratic machine is one of the things about New York politics I dislike the most, and as much as I sometimes disagree with AOC, I am glad her campaign threw a wrench in the gears. It's incredible to me that people are so eager to back more machine-backed politicians.
I wish the best for AOC. She will need it fighting against all that money and influence. They have been sh**ting on her from the get go. She's the future. Very sad to see people vote against their own interest. They would rather the 1 per cent benefit (even more) versus their neighbors and co-workers. So afraid of the status quo being challenged.
I wish the best for AOC. She will need it fighting against all that money and influence. They have been sh**ting on her from the get go. She's the future. Very sad to see people vote against their own interest. They would rather the 1 per cent benefit (even more) versus their neighbors and co-workers. So afraid of the status quo being challenged.
The Democratic machine is one of the things about New York politics I dislike the most, and as much as I sometimes disagree with AOC, I am glad her campaign threw a wrench in the gears. It's incredible to me that people are so eager to back more machine-backed politicians.
I agree. That's one of the upsides to her victory, IMO. I'm tired of party bosses having an outsized influence often on who gets the nomination.
Regarding your other post, yes, these establishment candidates need to be challenged. They are working for their own self interests and not the people.
Meh, she's got some parts of policies in there that I think are really good, but her platform is often caricatured beyond recognition of what her position and her votes actually are. That's how I feel about Trump to some degree, too. It oftentimes feels like people are projecting just general dissatisfaction in a groupthink pattern than having actual policy discussions or disagreements.
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I agree. That's one of the upsides to her victory, IMO. I'm tired of party bosses having an outsized influence often on who gets the nomination.
Yea, it's one of the best things about her. I was hoping for the unlikely event that the DSA-ish candidates and Trump administration would cause a split in both parties so that there's an actual possibility of true multi-party elections. It can't be just a split on one party because traditionally that has meant the split party and the new one loses. It's crazy that we have two parties that amalgamate these positions for issues that have almost no goddamn thing to do with each other. It's like by default for the vast majority of informed voters you have to make massive compromises in what you believe before your candidate even gets to office and further compromises.
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Meh, she's got some parts of policies in there that I think are really good, but her platform is often caricatured beyond recognition of what her position and her votes actually are. That's how I feel about Trump to some degree, too. It oftentimes feels like people are projecting just general dissatisfaction in a groupthink pattern than having actual policy discussions or disagreements.
Agree with the first bolded. All I hear people (many older republicans and democrats) say about her is she's a socialist (which is a lie) and socialism is bad. If you vote for her, you will get socialism and life will be hard. It's a message that is spread with such intensity and far from the truth. With the second bolded, I find this too. Don't know how to explain it but people are following politicians and voting along party lines. It makes our politics very simple-minded. For instance, there are things AOC backs I may not necessarily care so much for. With Trump, there are certain things I agree with but I find that too many are just agreeing with whatever their party supports no matter what. It's like they are not thinking for themselves. It's weird. I think it's a big reason we have so many who don't vote, but people were finally brave enough to vote for someone who they weren't sure would win (i.e. AOC/Bernie/Trump). Even though Trump caters to the machine, he ran a pretty populist campaign. For not taking money from corporations, AOC and Bernie have done well for themselves.
Yea, it's one of the best things about her. I was hoping for the unlikely event that the DSA-ish candidates and Trump administration would cause a split in both parties so that there's an actual possibility of true multi-party elections. It can't be just a split on one party because traditionally that has meant the split party and the new one loses. It's crazy that we have two parties that amalgamate these positions for issues that have almost no goddamn thing to do with each other. It's like by default for the vast majority of informed voters you have to make massive compromises in what you believe before your candidate even gets to office and further compromises.
This! And to be honest, there will be more cracks in both parties in the future. A lot of Millennials and Gen Z will probably drive this but they really need to vote more. This two-party system must go.
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