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Old 07-30-2020, 09:37 PM
 
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I walked around 86th Street and Broadway this week. More homeless than ever.
I was on 88th and broadway yesterday and a homeless man stood like an inch away from me, just smiling. Silly me , being on my phone I didn't notice until he was that close. He was probably tripping and happy high on something.
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Old 07-30-2020, 11:39 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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Life here feels sort of sad and desolate now, especially if you're in an area that was hit by looting, like the shops on 5th Ave. Not sure that they're more homeless around. Maybe it just seems that way because there are fewer other people around and the homeless/crazies just stand out more. It's not as bleak as the days after 9/11 or Hurricane Sandy, but it does feel like we're riding in a car where all the tires are running low on air.
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Old 07-31-2020, 12:59 AM
 
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I worked in midtown and downtown for many years up until about 2010 when I, way ahead of my time, began working from home. Peeps thought I was crazy at the time. Anywayz, midtown had a great buzz back in the day, even after 9/11. There was always a great energy, especially if you worked corporate. You felt like you were in the heart beat of the business world.

To see how it was looted and flooded by savage BLM rioters truly saddened me. Driving around one night to see it for myself, I couldn't believe I was actually watching people burn vans, topple police cars and break into stores, with the NYPD paralyzed to do anything. I never, ever thought "that stuff" could happen here.

So as I enter middle age, I'm done with Manhattan. I'm done with NY but really really done with Manhattan. And I feel most badly for young people in their 20s starting out in life. They will likely never experience Manhattan on full throttle during their prime years. Maybe in about 20 years from now it will come back to what it was. I hope it does. I'll always be a NYer at heart.
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Old 07-31-2020, 01:25 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I worked in midtown and downtown for many years up until about 2010 when I, way ahead of my time, began working from home. Peeps thought I was crazy at the time. Anywayz, midtown had a great buzz back in the day, even after 9/11. There was always a great energy, especially if you worked corporate. You felt like you were in the heart beat of the business world.

To see how it was looted and flooded by savage BLM rioters truly saddened me. Driving around one night to see it for myself, I couldn't believe I was actually watching people burn vans, topple police cars and break into stores, with the NYPD paralyzed to do anything. I never, ever thought "that stuff" could happen here.

So as I enter middle age, I'm done with Manhattan. I'm done with NY but really really done with Manhattan. And I feel most badly for young people in their 20s starting out in life. They will likely never experience Manhattan on full throttle during their prime years. Maybe in about 20 years from now it will come back to what it was. I hope it does. I'll always be a NYer at heart.
I agree esp about the buzz part. Almost sensory overload if one was not used to it. From food to entertainment to shopping , places with some sort of scene for everyone. More green spaces got added that fit it all really well. When I worked at the hotels it was fun informing visitors of all the things to see and do. Now its empty concrete, closed businesses and just echos of what it was.

Its going to be a very long time until normalcy returns indeed.
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Old 07-31-2020, 04:55 AM
 
Location: NY
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Excerpt: How Much Has Manhattan Deteriorated Since Covid?

Response: The question should be reworded to

How Much Has Manhattan Deteriorated Since Covid under the Cuomo/DeBlasio administration?
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Old 07-31-2020, 06:21 AM
 
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For the average New Yorker the effect of protests and riots have been very minimal. Protesters very rarely interact with the public. In Minneapolis they burned down 20 buildings but in NY none.

The effect of the COVID lockdown has been huge, business loss and job loss but also necessary and is stressful on mental health

46 percent of New York renters are unable to pay rent
The percent you're quoting, 46%, is from an article that's talking about state by state numbers.

In NYC, the percent that aren't paying rent is 25%.

https://patch.com/new-york/new-york-...ant-pay-report
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Old 07-31-2020, 09:09 AM
 
Location: NYC
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46% of people getting evicted?! That is an insane number,..wth.

That's like 4 million people. Really?!
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Old 07-31-2020, 09:22 AM
 
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Excerpt: How Much Has Manhattan Deteriorated Since Covid?

Response: The question should be reworded to

How Much Has Manhattan Deteriorated Since Covid under the Cuomo/DeBlasio administration?

I don't think a resurgence will take place until DeBlasio is gone.
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Old 07-31-2020, 09:29 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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46% of people getting evicted?! That is an insane number,..wth.

That's like 4 million people. Really?!
Im a bit skeptical on the number being that high. I dont doubt there is a lot of people but doesnt NYS have 8 million people? 4 mil would be half the population.

People did fall behind on rent if they got laid off, did not have enough saved (like about 70% of Americans) and had to wait weeks for UI and PUA. But they should have been able to catch up quickly with the extra $$ that was recieved in many cases also right? Not the case for all renters I understand esp those with families.
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Old 07-31-2020, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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City HAS deteriorated, but not as a result of non-existant "riots" nor protests but rather the shutting down of the economy and social life of the City, i.e., theater, museums, restaurants, libraries, bars, in-person shopping,etc.
and an overarching sense of FEAR. I will guess the City is less than 50% of what it was.

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Whether it will fully recover from a destroyed economy is anyone's guess (National GDP down 33% in last quarter.)
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