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View Poll Results: Too good to be true?
Yes 6 35.29%
No 11 64.71%
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:04 PM
 
Location: New York City
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If you know you're going to be somewhere long term, land lease/leasehold can be considerably cheaper than renting, which is what some people may be going for, especially if they have no desire to or cannot afford to buy fee simple properties.
It's a con scheme. You are forfeiting your money for the rights to pay rent (maintenance) and don't actually own anything because the land owner can raze your building at the end of the lease. The only justification is the belief that there's going to be a next sucker (buyer) to give your money back to you when you want to leave ('sell').
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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It's a con scheme. You are forfeiting your money for the rights to pay rent (maintenance) and don't actually own anything because the land owner can raze your building at the end of the lease. The only justification is the belief that there's going to be a next sucker (buyer) to give your money back to you when you want to leave ('sell').
It works for who it works for and doesn’t for who it doesn’t. Again, some can’t afford to buy (or just may not want to buy) and this option may be cheaper for them than renting. You also don’t own anything with renting, but if I can sign a 20 year leasehold for a unit for $250k in downtown Honolulu in a building where comparable units rent for $1,600 a month, I may very well make out better than renting depending on how much the monthly condo fees add to my mortgage. I’d consider leaseholds under certain circumstances, but not as an alternative to actually buying a unit.
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:08 PM
 
Location: New York City
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It works for who it works for and doesn’t for who it doesn’t. Again, some can’t afford to buy (or just may not want to buy) and this option may be cheaper for them than renting. You also don’t own anything with renting, but if I can sign a 20 year leasehold for a unit for $250k in downtown Honolulu in a building where comparable units rent for $1,600 a month, I may very well make out better than renting depending on how much the monthly condo fees add to my mortgage. I’d consider leaseholds under certain circumstances, but not as an alternative to actually buying a unit.
All true, also true that to play this game you need to have and risk a substantial chunk of change
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Old 01-27-2021, 06:54 PM
 
Location: planet earth
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What does that mean? Building will be foreclosed?
Without knowing anything else (and not clicking on anything), it means it can't be financed.
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Old 01-27-2021, 06:56 PM
 
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Look it up on StreetEasy so you can read all of the docs that have been filed. There must be some problems with the building.
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Old 02-01-2021, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Only downside is that awfully high Maintenance.

The major reason for CASH ONLY is that the co-op knows that no bank will give a mortgage on the property and that is usually because there are too few owner occupied apartments. IOt looks like the owners outnumber the renters but by very little.

<First find out how many apartments the sponsor still owns, whether most apartments are rent stabilized rentals, when the land lease runs out, and if the place had been Mitchell Lama.

Of most importance: make sure you are not buying an occupied apartment.

According to StreetEasy, the 340K is very much in line with recent sales.

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Old 02-01-2021, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, NYC
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That maintenance, no way. I think that $700 is expensive, no way would I pay $1200~.
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