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Old 04-22-2021, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Democratic primary mayoral candidate Dianne Morales wants to create a new city agency that will be the first responder agency for calls for people suffering from mental illness, homelessness or substance abuse.

The “Community First Responders Department would use “trauma informed resources and care,” according to the campaign and exist separately from the NYPD.

The new agency would be staffed by medical professionals and social workers.
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Old 04-22-2021, 01:31 PM
 
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Going to be hilarious when the social worker needs to call the cops because they got beat up or have their life threatened. And when the first social worker is killed in one of these situations who is going to be blamed? LOL
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Old 04-22-2021, 02:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Wow, I'm going to regret retiring before all of this defunding stuff is done. This would be even better than removing traffic enforcement from cops. Doing both? OMG!!! I might fake a birth certificate to try to get in again.
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Old 04-22-2021, 03:36 PM
 
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It's a bold idea. I like it. Now let's see what the other candidates have.
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Old 04-22-2021, 03:51 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Can you imagine a social worker trying to talk to the young woman who was recently shot by a cop because she had a knife in her hand and was about to stab another woman? How can anyone show up and try to calm a situation like that?
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Old 04-22-2021, 04:09 PM
 
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Can you imagine a social worker trying to talk to the young woman who was recently shot by a cop because she had a knife in her hand and was about to stab another woman? How can anyone show up and try to calm a situation like that?

It's called de-escalation. It's what I expect out of my tax dollars when it comes to law enforcement in this political climate.



Can you imagine a young man - small, skinny kid actually - walking home and is stopped by the cops based on a 911 call (which the person stated he looked "sketchy") ...the kid pleads with the cops to just let him walk home but the cops don't listen...they rough him up a bit...body cameras just "happen" to fall off...eventually EMS arrives and sticks him with 500 milligrams of ketamine from which he later suffers a heart attack and dies.


Now my guess is that a social worker, who is particularly trained to handle introverted people like an Elijah McClain, would have handled the situation far differently. And that young man would be alive today.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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It's called de-escalation. It's what I expect out of my tax dollars when it comes to law enforcement in this political climate.



Can you imagine a young man - small, skinny kid actually - walking home and is stopped by the cops based on a 911 call (which the person stated he looked "sketchy") ...the kid pleads with the cops to just let him walk home but the cops don't listen...they rough him up a bit...body cameras just "happen" to fall off...eventually EMS arrives and sticks him with 500 milligrams of ketamine from which he later suffers a heart attack and dies.


Now my guess is that a social worker, who is particularly trained to handle introverted people like an Elijah McClain, would have handled the situation far differently. And that young man would be alive today.
Sounds all good and well, but it's hardly a sure thing and "expecting" it will leave you sorely disappointed. De-escalation isn't going to stop a person, consumed with rage, from continuing to lunge at someone with a knife or worse. Actually, I take that back. The bullet can be very effective at ensuring situations are de-escalated.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:55 PM
 
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"Deescalation" needs to be tried by all these magical agencies and units they're creating so that people will be forced to admit reality (Hint 1: it rarely works. Hint 2: cops have been trying it for decades)

Just take everything out of cops hands for now. Let the chips fall where they may. The usual suspects will be begging back really soon.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:14 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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It's called de-escalation. It's what I expect out of my tax dollars when it comes to law enforcement in this political climate.



Can you imagine a young man - small, skinny kid actually - walking home and is stopped by the cops based on a 911 call (which the person stated he looked "sketchy") ...the kid pleads with the cops to just let him walk home but the cops don't listen...they rough him up a bit...body cameras just "happen" to fall off...eventually EMS arrives and sticks him with 500 milligrams of ketamine from which he later suffers a heart attack and dies.


Now my guess is that a social worker, who is particularly trained to handle introverted people like an Elijah McClain, would have handled the situation far differently. And that young man would be alive today.
When someone has a mental illness, is on drugs (remember bath salts?) or is in rage, there may not be enough time to have an armchair discussion.
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:19 PM
 
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In other news, hundreds of college students change their major FROM social work.
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