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Old 01-05-2022, 11:14 AM
 
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If the social issues could be solved, the entire business of crime would fall apart, but we can't have that

Truth be told the world needs drug addicts who rob and steal, without them there would be a lot of unemployed people

Or we can just solve the social issues and eradicate crime completely

Can't have it both ways though



It boggles the mind that an adult person like yourself can actually believe in such humorous stuff :-).

If criminals would stop doing crime, incarceration would go away, but even in that case the business of crime control would never go away. Every person on this planet has some kind of social issue or another, but the majority of people handle their own social issues without crime. The sole responsibility for committing crime (and therefore for incarceration too) is on criminals themselves. Solutions to social issues (by which you appear to mean poverty) are far more extensively funded and implemented in the US than almost anywhere else, yet the US has more crime than almost anywhere else except the areas formally in civil or international war.

We had this discussion already - a lot of people in Singapore are employed in police and security jobs, ie, the fact that there is almost no crime does not mean that security force is unemployed (on the contrary, the police is extremely present everywhere). Other low crime countries (Japan, Switzerland) certainly have tremendous numbers of people employed in security. Do you think gold deposits in Switzerland are guarded by Boy Scouts?
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:17 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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so now you are trying to justify crime. Before you were downplaying and making excuses. Now, you are making crime into something positive.

If anyone ever deserves to be a victim of crime, you have got to be at the front of the line. Then you can come back and tell us how good it is.
It's pretty crazy isn't it, and actually sad how some people are conditioned to their environment.
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:19 AM
 
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It boggles the mind that an adult person like yourself can actually believe in such humorous stuff :-).

If criminals would stop doing crime, incarceration would go away, but even in that case the business of crime control would never go away. Every person on this planet has some kind of social issue or another, but the majority of people handle their own social issues without crime. The sole responsibility for committing crime (and therefore for incarceration too) is on criminals themselves. Solutions to social issues (by which you appear to mean poverty) are far more extensively funded and implemented in the US than almost anywhere else, yet the US has more crime than almost anywhere else except the areas formally in civil or international war.

We had this discussion already - a lot of people in Singapore are employed in police and security jobs, ie, the fact that there is almost no crime does not mean that security force is unemployed (on the contrary, the police is extremely present everywhere). Other low crime countries (Japan, Switzerland) certainly have tremendous numbers of people employed in security. Do you think gold deposits in Switzerland are guarded by Boy Scouts?
Don't mind Seventh, he will always find a way to justify any crime and will defend to death the right of every criminal to commit crime because it's "just normal". Makes me wonder if he's ever been victim of said violent thugs. Obviously he's never been to a clean and crime free place like Singapore or Bern.

And anyway, you make a good point about security force employment. There is ALWAYS room for employment even in the most peaceful societies. Ironically, the less crime in a society, the more employment opportunities it tends to have because of a good quality of life LOL
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:21 AM
 
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It boggles the mind that an adult person like yourself can actually believe in such humorous stuff :-).

If criminals would stop doing crime, incarceration would go away, but even in that case the business of crime control would never go away. Every person on this planet has some kind of social issue or another, but the majority of people handle their own social issues without crime. The sole responsibility for committing crime (and therefore for incarceration too) is on criminals themselves. Solutions to social issues (by which you appear to mean poverty) are far more extensively funded and implemented in the US than almost anywhere else, yet the US has more crime than almost anywhere else except the areas formally in civil or international war.

We had this discussion already - a lot of people in Singapore are employed in police and security jobs, ie, the fact that there is almost no crime does not mean that security force is unemployed (on the contrary, the police is extremely present everywhere). Other low crime countries (Japan, Switzerland) certainly have tremendous numbers of people employed in security. Do you think gold deposits in Switzerland are guarded by Boy Scouts?
Its sad that the world needs so much paid security
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:23 AM
 
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So now you are trying to justify crime. Before you were downplaying and making excuses. Now, you are making crime into something positive.

If anyone ever deserves to be a victim of crime, you have got to be at the front of the line. Then you can come back and tell us how good it is.

Oh by the way, all those unemployed people would just find other industries to work at. That’s how a functioning healthy society works, something you don’t have a understanding of.
I want no crime in NYC at all, am I being naive for wanting that?

Or should I be like you and accept that crime is part of life?
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:24 AM
 
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I want no crime in NYC at all, am I being naive for wanting that?

Or should I be like you and accept that crime is part of life?
LOL
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:26 AM
 
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LOL
LOL but nobody will answer my question though

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Old 01-05-2022, 11:26 AM
 
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Its sad that the world needs so much paid security
Agreed, it is sad. Now lets get back to adult conversation.
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:27 AM
 
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Its sad that the world needs so much paid security

It is what it is. It is called reality.
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Old 01-05-2022, 11:28 AM
 
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Agreed, it is sad. Now lets get back to adult conversation.

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