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Old 01-06-2022, 11:21 AM
 
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How silly of the mayor to think white collar workers with the option of WFH will go back to the office just to support the rest of the ecosystem. Provide some incentives like tax breaks for people who go into the office.
exactly
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Old 01-06-2022, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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it is time to open everything like it used to be, it is time already.

children cannot learn remote. schools need to freaking open and stay open.

offices need to be open again.

they city should never have of been shut down in the first place.
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Old 01-06-2022, 11:53 AM
 
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offices need to be open again.

they city should never have of been shut down in the first place.
Except the city DID shut down. And thousands of employees and some executives saw what they knew for a long time that is many tasks can be done remotely or semi-remotely. There's no use pretending otherwise. Energies should be spent planning for a different kind of future with NYC hosting different jobs that can only be done in person.
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Old 01-06-2022, 12:13 PM
 
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it is time to open everything like it used to be, it is time already.

children cannot learn remote. schools need to freaking open and stay open.

offices need to be open again.

they city should never have of been shut down in the first place.
i agree but it should be up to the businesses. if a business feels then can me more profitable with people working remotely for example (for all different kinds of reasons) then they have that right and that's what they should do.
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Old 01-06-2022, 12:38 PM
 
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NYC is desperately trying to cling onto the model of a 20th century city that it thrived under during various periods of the 1900s.

It is the 21st century. This city needs to reinvent itself or it will be forgotten like Pompeii, Petra, or Ani.

Get with the times guys.
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Old 01-06-2022, 12:43 PM
 
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Our office has been open since the pandemic, 98% of us choose not to go in. Who goes in? People within walking distance of the office. That's about it. NJ, CT, LI, and Westchester? No thanks.
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Old 01-06-2022, 12:53 PM
 
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Maybe they can mandate people go back to work and waste time on commute and $20 lunches.

Exactly why they want people back in the office. Those businesses that charged us $20 lunches are losing money now.

Maybe these people who work at the expensive food places should get a WFH job and make their money that way instead of forcing others to come to the office just to support their business.
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Old 01-06-2022, 01:23 PM
 
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Yes, I saw that. LOL He's probably working mainly from home himself, or if he is going in, it's during rush hour when most of the crime issues aren't happening. How convenient. It's also hilarious to essentially say that these sorts of crime issues are ok because we've always had crime issues.
Midtown always sucked, who are we fooling

Go look at the NYPD crime numbers for Midtown before and during Covid, it won't make a difference
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Old 01-06-2022, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Yep if you're in a town in LI or Westchester then pretty much the only way you get COVID is through friends, family or your kids.

So if your neighbor commutes into the city then he's bringing Omicron right into the community.
Actually ,right now the daily positivity rates in Nassau and Suffolk are almost the same as those in NY City so it doesn't really matter. There is an equal chance of a commuter from Long Island bringing covid into the city as there is of bringing it home.
Essex County NJ has a significantly higher rate than any county in NYC or Long Island.
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Old 01-06-2022, 02:22 PM
 
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Well it's not THEIR choice. The employers making the decision if people can work from home or not. Up until this latest wave, the banking sector were demanding that their workers return to the office. I know my old bank colleagues were back to working downtown. Quite simply, if people are just going to stay home and work, NYC will continue its decline of empty storefronts and more homelessness to the point of no return.
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I know I love when people argue but I can work from home. You're an employee. It's not your choice. They want you there so You either go there or you quit.

Exactly! Spot on!


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As someone else kindly mentioned it actually is...

American workers have their choice to downsize or move out of NYC in particular. They can also choose not to support sending their kids to NYC colleges or help pay overpriced Manhattan rent for their kids.

Consumers and Workers can exercise their choice to not be a slave to a system that doesn't serve them adequately.

Um, on what planet do employees have power over their employers? If you have no job, how do you afford to move out of NYC or send your kids outside of NYC? Try telling your boss that you're working from home...or better yet, tell your employer that you're moving out of the city, and let's see if you still have your job if your employer requires on-site presence. So long as you're an employee, you are a slave to your employer - He tells you how much money you will make, what time you clock in, how you spend your day, and when it's time for you be escorted out of the building.



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Well it IS their choice. It's an employees' market and many workers would rather quit than go back onsite. It's childish if Adams thinks employees can be forced to come back if their CEOs make them:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron...re-11641384004

Likewise technology has been available for a long time. The pandemic only exposed what many knew all along.

An employee's market? Please explain. Last I checked, people earning a paycheck needs an employer to pay them. Perhaps I come from an era where people don't just quit and have no way to make a living. I wouldn't know what to do if I just quit and had no savings and no business plan to fall back on. And Adams DOES NOT think that employees can be forced back to work. He's just stating facts - cities cannot survive if most of its population is working from home.


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