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Old 01-18-2022, 11:23 AM
 
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Going by this reasoning, use of subways should be shrinking, not growing. Yet the opposite is happening.
People who don't actually live in NYC have no clue. I'm on the trains 6 days a week. In all different neighborhoods and boro's. I frequent all sorts of businesses. The city is alive and running.
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Old 01-18-2022, 11:25 AM
 
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People who don't actually live in NYC have no clue. I'm on the trains 6 days a week. In all different neighborhoods and boro's. I frequent all sorts of businesses. The city is alive and running.
Let's not exaggerate. The outer boroughs are alive, but parts of Manhattan are definitely dead.
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Old 01-18-2022, 11:27 AM
 
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but parts of Manhattan are definitely dead.
There have been times when certain pockets of the city have done better than others. Similar to what happened to parts of the boroughs when the chemicals and garments jobs vanished.
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Old 01-18-2022, 11:46 AM
 
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Let's not exaggerate. The outer boroughs are alive, but parts of Manhattan are definitely dead.
Where?
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Old 01-18-2022, 12:06 PM
 
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Where?
Midtown East north of Grand Central and FiDi are much more quiet now than before COVID-19. But does anyone really think these places, which house some of the most valuable real estate in the world, have zero economic value?
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Old 01-18-2022, 12:12 PM
 
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Right now a lot of restaurants, office buildings and others are skimming by on the hopes of this being over in the next year or so. Remote work becoming the norm would devestate the NYC working class as construction and service industry jobs would dry up.

Based on its history and architecture, NYC can always reinvent itself as a historic resort city, for people who like living in such places, and for visitors. Service industry would expand, and construction would survive. But the issue of crime would have to be resolved - a resort city cannot be a criminal h*ll at the same time. I gave this opinion a number of times already, but I think it is worth repeating. Btw, I no longer use the subway in NYC, don't know when/if I might use it again. I feel it's way too dangerous now.
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Old 01-18-2022, 12:16 PM
 
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I gave this opinion a number of times already, but I think it is worth repeating. Btw, I no longer use the subway in NYC, don't know when/if I might use it again. I feel it's way too dangerous now.
Are you sure the actual reason you don't use the subway is because you really don't have to?
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Old 01-18-2022, 12:21 PM
 
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Are you sure the actual reason you don't use the subway is because you really don't have to?

I am sure. The express bus is safer, and the price of a 7-day pass for it is tolerable.
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Old 01-18-2022, 02:54 PM
 
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Going by this reasoning, use of subways should be shrinking, not growing. Yet the opposite is happening.
The growth as you mentioned are the lower paid staff who must be on site in NYC.
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Old 01-18-2022, 02:56 PM
 
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Let's not exaggerate. The outer boroughs are alive, but parts of Manhattan are definitely dead.
Manhattan is largely a visitor's borough. In 2019, average day 1 million folks commuted to work in Manhattan. That is down well over half even now in 2022.

Most who commute a long distance (Metro North, NJ Rail) have incomes well in excess of the city average. Their wallets have immensely affected Manhattan.

No one would be commuting Ct-Queens.
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