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Old 02-16-2022, 09:15 PM
 
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...but other minorities DO work harder than Section 8 or Housing Project Black Americans, and that has nothing to do with White Supremacy. It's because Dominicans or Ecuadorians will show up with the clothes on their back, work, learn English, and contract a mortgage in about 3 years, while Junmill from the projects complains the entire time that Latinos are stealing jobs he was never even applied for to begin with, while collecting welfare money that whole time.

Black Americans in the NYCHA system don't have to pay electricity, gas, and barely any rent (about $100 a month).

...and yes, while there is a case for recompensation (especially in the case of racist cops across the country), I don't have to love or feel compassion for even one damn soul if I don't feel like it.

Go p--s up a rope!
I don’t even hear American blacks say Latinos are stealing their jobs.

Yea, and that’s actually no different from an ignorant white guy who says Mexicans are taking their jobs.

You won’t talk about them tho because it defeats your argument.

 
Old 02-16-2022, 09:17 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Over time, a subculture of anti-education emerged with certain groups of African Americans. .
What's this all about? Was this a thing?

Is there a formal name for this movement?
 
Old 02-16-2022, 09:18 PM
 
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I have a theory about this. In the past (before the 1910s), pursuing education usually didn't pay off for African Americans in the South. Even with high academic achievement, most likely the person would still not have access to high paying jobs or capital to start a business. High effort, low reward.

Over time, a subculture of anti-education emerged with certain groups of African Americans. Then the Great Migration happened, and some of this subculture spread to cities across the U.S. Obviously, things are much different now and education/skills can pay off big time, but it will probably take many more generations to get rid of this subculture completely.

African/Latino/Caribbeans mostly came over in the post-segregation era, so this anti-education subculture never developed with them.
A subculture of anti-education? How? When they could barely pursue it in the first place?
 
Old 02-16-2022, 09:19 PM
 
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What's this all about? Was this a thing?

Is there a formal name for this movement?
Exactly.

How? And when? When they could barely pursue education to begin with.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 09:25 PM
 
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All the praise for immigrants, but no praise for the african american slave descendents who built this country and never got reparations...disgusting vibes here man. What do those immigrants do that black americans dont?
 
Old 02-16-2022, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Queens, New York
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Someone's opposing opinions is satire? are you serious? Guess i'm suppose to be conservative like everybody else here.



What have YOU done to help the black community? Nothing i bet. This is why we're still suffering and stuck in ghettos.
As a Black woman, I only help those that truly want to be helped. I volunteer at food drives and I have donated thousands to DV shelters located in Brooklyn and Queens.

I also take tours of areas such as Brownsville and East New York charging attendees a fee of $5 showing them how life can be if everyone collectively gave up. It’s almost like a “scared straight”. I have a 4.7 Yelp review currently.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 09:30 PM
 
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I totally disagree and I'm not racist at all and blacks are not "stuck in the ghetto" but they are stuck in a mentality that seems to blame everything on racism without any proof whatsoever.
Yes, but racism is an actual real thing. And going by what’s said and felt, any basic conversation on anything from incarceration to history, politics, and even pop culture racism could possibly be involved as a discussion topic.

It’s unfortunate and perhaps you can’t relate but it is.

I don’t think everyone is “stuck in a certain mentality.” It’s much more than that.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I wish guys like Nassiem Ordonez all the best. At least he's trying and organizations like CSS, JobsFirstNYC and Phipps Neighborhoods are trying to help. God bless them.

"New Yorkers like 22-year-old Nassiem Ordonez live with the consequences. Raised in the South Bronx primarily by his grandmother, he dropped out of school in the ninth grade and since then has worked only for short periods of time — off the books and low paying jobs, mostly in factories.

“My father wasn’t in my life at the time and I had no one to show me how to find a job when I started looking at 14,” he said.

Ordonez is getting the kind of help CSS and JobsFirstNYC envision. He’s enrolling in a program at Phipps Neighborhoods next month where he hopes to earn a GED degree. In addition to providing schooling in the morning, Phipps will help him with a subsidized job in the afternoon to help make ends meet. And it will provide other skills, Ordonez said, “showing me the proper way to conduct myself professionally at interviews.

If all goes well, he hopes to become an EMT for the city".

https://www.thecity.nyc/work/2022/2/...ove-15-percent

One in five Black New Yorkers is either officially unemployed, stuck in a part-time job when they want full-time work, or so discouraged they are not even looking for employment — suffering the worst job hits of the pandemic recession.

While Black unemployment is historically higher than that for other groups and harder hit by economic downturns, the data this time is more worrisome, according to new research from New School economist James Parrott.

It shows that while white joblessness declined steadily last year, Black unemployment dipped only slightly and rose toward the end of the year.

There is no consensus about the reasons the pandemic recession is worse for Black New Yorkers or even which parts of communities have been affected the most, in part because the available data isn’t detailed enough. But the dire numbers are spurring concern.

“This is a startling trend that the city and state must take seriously and address,” said David Jones, president of the Community Service Society of New York, an anti-poverty policy nonprofit.

“The Black community has taken severe economic blows throughout the pandemic, from job loss, death, health tragedies, and beyond. And COVID’s impact on remote schooling for Black youth will be felt for decades.”

New Mayor Eric Adams vows he will deal with what many call a crisis, although he has yet to announce any far-reaching measures to do so. Similarly, Gov. Kathy Hochul has had little to say on the subject.

JobsFirstNYC, which works to improve the economic prospects for young New Yorkers, found that in the pandemic 18- to 24-year-olds in New York City are 35% more likely to have lost work than all other workers. The group’s analysis after the 2008 recession also showed that age group was concentrated in food service and retail and low-paying health care positions. All three industries have been devastated by the pandemic.

CEO Marjorie Parker also notes that a large number of young people, especially those of color, have left school. This adds to the unemployment rate because students are not counted in the workforce — but those who leave school become either unemployed or discouraged workers.
The GED is NOT a degree. It's a certificate that says you know just enough to pass the basic requirements of high school, aren't brain dead, and can breathe on your own. My dog's obedience school training certificate holds more weight. He actually accomplished something. That being said, the GED certificate will open some doors for you. A person can join the military, enroll in a CUNY college, enroll in a trade school, and apply for a city job. I wish this young man luck, however, the dye appears to be cast and he will need to change the narrative of his life to overcome the hand he has been dealt, and not cry racism when he doesn't get what he wants. There should be ZERO tolerance when it comes to that. Hopefully, he and many like him succeed and if they do have children they don't make the same mistakes that their parents made.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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The holocaust survivors got reparations...japenese got reparations...indians got reparations...but the black race who suffered 400 years (and to this day) of oppression and slavery, we get NOTHING. This is a massive failure on the US government and NYC. Every black descendent of a slave should get $10,000, no questions asked and we can use it as we want. That will lift us out of oppression by the racist white system and we can finally began competing with our peers.
Blacks got their freedom. The right to vote, desegregation billions dumped into society to help them rise up from perceived oppression, most recently, they were given affirmative action. You can lead a horse to water, you can't make the horse drink the water.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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What's this all about? Was this a thing?

Is there a formal name for this movement?
I don't know if there's a name for it. It's just an observation from seeing how some classmates behaved in middle-school and high school.

I remember one of my classmates asked an African American female classmate why isn't she working on the assignment and she said (very casually) "I don't do work." She meant that she doesn't do class work at all.
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