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Old 04-10-2022, 07:37 PM
 
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The revived Village Voice had a very good, but very tough, look at Giuliani, and his downfall. I'm not familiar with Eileen Markey, but she has an impressive background.

I hadn't realized his approval ratings even then were low.




The Fall of ‘America’s Mayor’
9/11 wasn’t Rudy’s finest hour, it was the beginning of his end

Within weeks, he’d be grasping for a third term and railing against Juan Gonzalez for writing muckraking Daily News columns exposing the lies his administration and the EPA were spreading about the air quality in Lower Manhattan. And he refused to enforce basic safety procedures during the clean-up of the mountain of toxic debris from the fallen towers — even as fires burned into December — in favor of advertising the city as open for business. That decision continues to extract its toll among those who spent time near Ground Zero. He congratulated Motorola for its great work, even though the company had sold the FDNY defective and inoperable radios in a sweetheart deal.
https://www.villagevoice.com/2021/09...mericas-mayor/
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Old 04-10-2022, 07:41 PM
 
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He did clean up NYC. Now it is a cesspool again.
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Old 04-10-2022, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Giuliani was never well-liked as NYC mayor; his post-9/11 approval ratings were outliers compared to much of his two terms. If you search on YouTube, you can find clips of him insulting school bus drivers (it got personal) who were questioning him about his stance on their contract negotiations. In many ways, Giuliani was a bully. But enough people voted for him because he got results. Simply put, people were tired of the days where NYC was having 2,600+ homicides a year and thousands of more rapes, assaults, etc. People wanted their city back and Giuliani was the best candidate to do that.
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Old 04-10-2022, 08:44 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Giuliani was never well-liked as NYC mayor; his post-9/11 approval ratings were outliers compared to much of his two terms. If you search on YouTube, you can find clips of him insulting school bus drivers (it got personal) who were questioning him about his stance on their contract negotiations. In many ways, Giuliani was a bully. But enough people voted for him because he got results. Simply put, people were tired of the days where NYC was having 2,600+ homicides a year and thousands of more rapes, assaults, etc. People wanted their city back and Giuliani was the best candidate to do that.
He's exactly what NYC needed. A no-nonsense mayor who took on the mob to clean up this City. We had eight years of that buffoon de Blasio and now look.
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Old 04-10-2022, 09:28 PM
 
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He did clean up NYC. Now it is a cesspool again.
Because NYC votes democrat now just like every other place that is now a crap hole
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Old 04-10-2022, 10:35 PM
 
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Because NYC votes democrat now just like every other place that is now a crap hole


I wonder if people blame the respective political party in power for any high-crime city in the world, or is this ideology just restricted to this country
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Old 04-11-2022, 12:02 AM
 
Location: NY
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The revived Village Voice had a very good, but very tough, look at Giuliani, and his downfall. I'm not familiar with Eileen Markey, but she has an impressive background.

I hadn't realized his approval ratings even then were low.




The Fall of ‘America’s Mayor’
9/11 wasn’t Rudy’s finest hour, it was the beginning of his end

Within weeks, he’d be grasping for a third term and railing against Juan Gonzalez for writing muckraking Daily News columns exposing the lies his administration and the EPA were spreading about the air quality in Lower Manhattan. And he refused to enforce basic safety procedures during the clean-up of the mountain of toxic debris from the fallen towers — even as fires burned into December — in favor of advertising the city as open for business. That decision continues to extract its toll among those who spent time near Ground Zero. He congratulated Motorola for its great work, even though the company had sold the FDNY defective and inoperable radios in a sweetheart deal.
https://www.villagevoice.com/2021/09...mericas-mayor/


We are talking about the REVIVED paper right?

One does not have to wonder why some left leaning prints die
in a left leaning city.............

How about some truthful reporting...............

Mayor Rudolph Giuliani was one of the greatest Mayors that ever ran
New York City regardless what any paper and their employees print.

Lets look at how the paper praised former Bill ......on his
" genuine success and greatest victory " .... universal prekindergarten !
This alone does not run a city...but sure will cost the taxpayers.
Wonder why so many are leaving?

How about...
Freezing rents, on rent stabilized apartments, low income tenants earning the right to retain an attorney when being evicted.
Municipal ID cards for undocumented immigrants and employers being required to offer paid sick days to employees?

Although thoughtful , ill timed during a downward spiraling economy and not without consequences.
Like moma says.....there's a time and a place for everything.... all he did was help sink an economy further
and help tax paying, revenue producing citizens.... pack their bags. But hey......universal Kindergarten..Woo Hoo!

Oh and let us not forget his success in curtailing of stop and frisk.......Did crime really plunge as printed?
Now we are stuck with a .......err...... ummm..... star struck pot smoker to pick up the pieces ?


Truthful reporting is as rare as hen's teeth.

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Old 04-11-2022, 01:25 AM
 
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He's exactly what NYC needed. A no-nonsense mayor who took on the mob to clean up this City. We had eight years of that buffoon de Blasio and now look.
While he did take down most of the mob in NYC, the mob wasn't really a criminal street problem compared to the everyday savages across the boroughs and northern Manhattan reeking havoc and preying on everyday NYer's. The mob literally consisted of a few hundred people. A small number compared to the thousands of black and hispanic street criminals all over the city.
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Old 04-11-2022, 01:34 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Look who posted that article. That’s all you need to know the impartiality (or lack there of) of that article.
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Old 04-11-2022, 05:01 AM
 
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Giuliani was never well-liked as NYC mayor; his post-9/11 approval ratings were outliers compared to much of his two terms. If you search on YouTube, you can find clips of him insulting school bus drivers (it got personal) who were questioning him about his stance on their contract negotiations. In many ways, Giuliani was a bully. But enough people voted for him because he got results. Simply put, people were tired of the days where NYC was having 2,600+ homicides a year and thousands of more rapes, assaults, etc. People wanted their city back and Giuliani was the best candidate to do that.
Wasnt Cuomo a bully? And people voted for him plenty of times.
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