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Country Club in The Bronx is small, but suburban enough to have Italians stay there, so it doesn't surprise me that it's so high up there. High ownership rate there too, so stable neighborhood. No reason to leave unless you want to leave New York entirely.
Funny thing is walking around Country Club area in Bronx am reminded of how much place looks just like certain areas of south Brooklyn and Staten Island in terms of architecture.
"Sunset Park, though one of the oldest neighborhoods In the city (it was settled by the Dutch in 1636) was named officially only in 1966, when a circle was drawn around the northern part of Bay Ridge and designated a poverty area by the Federal Government."
B) I graduated from Catholic grammar school in Sunset Park around 1970. My class had names that were Irish, Italian, Polish and Spanish. It's not unusual that people who were meeting in school and church were intermarrying.
C) The ambiance of Bay Ridge (including Sunset back then) was a lot more Irish than Italian, as evidenced by the large amount of bars that were all over both areas. People who say Bay Ridge was Italian are conflating it with Dyker Heights and Bensonhurst.
Funny thing is walking around Country Club area in Bronx am reminded of how much place looks just like certain areas of south Brooklyn and Staten Island in terms of architecture.
Yeah the Spencer Estates part of Country Club. Looks kind of like Westchester in parts. Very suburban in feel, with the houses set back from the sidewalk, especially by Villa Maria Academy. No sidewalks in some parts.
Though fiction in film "Saturday Night Fever" a PR couple enters dance contest and were not welcomed by some. Those Puerto Ricans didn't travel from Bronx, Harlem or wherever else all the way down to Bayridge, Brooklyn for a local dance contest. In fiction well as real life PR lived in Bayridge then, since and still now.
Some don't like to talk about it but Italians and Puerto Ricans have been living in close proximity and intermingling (marrying) for years now. You can throw Italians and Cubans into that mix as well.
Whole "West Side Story" thing isn't purely fiction either. In Italians and Puerto Ricans lived in close proximity to each other all over NYC (Lincoln Square, west and east Harlem, etc... ) and not always peacefully either.
As wont to happen two groups did mix and Puerto Ricans joined the Irish and others who weren't Italian that kids brought home as future wives or husbands. Yeah, mothers and nonnas turned statues and pictures of saints upside down at first, but people got over it, well eventually anyway.
mothers and nonnas turned statues and pictures of saints upside down at first, but people got over it, well eventually anyway.
Took me back 50 years. Love it .Thanks for the chuckle.
Prince's Bay (Rossville) was still largely a rural farmland community well into 1970's. It's location and fact transportation options were limited kept things that way. Then came VNB (1969) and more importantly Westshore expressway (1976).
As happened all over SI there was a free for all land grab with developers and speculators seeing gold in all that land. People either willingly or not were bought out and sold land became tons of what you see all over certain parts of SI today; semi-detached tract houses, townhouses and condos. Guess who filled them....
Depending upon source of info Rossville is about 60% to nearly 63% Italian. There is a decent sized Russian population out there as well.
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Not to sidetrack things, but Rossville still have a black population, given that Sandy Ground is/was a long time black settlement in that area and there is a church there as well?
Not to sidetrack things, but Rossville still have a black population, given that Sandy Ground is/was a long time black settlement in that area and there is a church there as well?
No.
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