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The MTA is a joke of an organization and is purely a jobs program at this point.
Maybe a few of the usual clowns on this forum will come and chime in on how hard the MTA has it and why these costs are always justified.
The costs are one thing. However, even with these egregious costs, the MTA can't ever get anything done on time either.
I saw a comment in a transit forum from a construction worker on the East Side Access project. He was saying how happy he was for the years of work that the project gave him, basically happy about the endless extended completion dates. LOL, but the LOL is is on the taxpayers.
From the article
"The cost of the Second Avenue Subway extension to East Harlem has ballooned to $7.7 billion, an $800 million increase from previous estimates, according to documents published on Thursday by the Federal Transit Administration."
From the article
"The cost of the Second Avenue Subway extension to East Harlem has ballooned to $7.7 billion, an $800 million increase from previous estimates, according to documents published on Thursday by the Federal Transit Administration."
Just to put this in perspective, there is currently a project for one of the most advanced engineering projects in human history, with the full Tier 1 quality of German worksmanship and Scandanavian standards to build a massive tunnel between Denmark and Germany.
It is considered a modern marvel and once thought impossible. The cost? Less than 3 subway station in Manhattan
I'm sure there is waste, but, think of how complex it is to build in Manhattan, where they are working in tight quarters and have to move numerous wires and pipes just to clear the way. Wasn't just finding spots to put the entrances a major headache?
Did the compensate the stores for lost revenue along the way?
I'm sure there is waste, but, think of how complex it is to build in Manhattan, where they are working in tight quarters and have to move numerous wires and pipes just to clear the way. Wasn't just finding spots to put the entrances a major headache?
Did the compensate the stores for lost revenue along the way?
The Manhattan "complexity" is total BS - in the early 20th century the IRT and IND managed to build the entire subway in Manhattan when it was pretty much just as dense below Harlem as it is now, at a tiny fraction of the cost and in a tiny fraction of the time.
Back then, they built with the "cut and cover" method which if used today would save a HUGE amount of time and money, although a small handful of people would be inconvenienced for a year or two while their street is dug up.
The Manhattan "complexity" is total BS - in the early 20th century the IRT and IND managed to build the entire subway in Manhattan when it was pretty much just as dense below Harlem as it is now, at a tiny fraction of the cost and in a tiny fraction of the time.
Back then, they built with the "cut and cover" method which if used today would save a HUGE amount of time and money, although a small handful of people would be inconvenienced for a year or two while their street is dug up.
You cannot compare construction today to construction in 1901, when the underground utilities were not nearly as complicated. Portions of the Second Avenue line are cut and cover, and it's still expensive. https://www.geoengineer.org/news/con...manhattan-area
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