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Old 01-10-2024, 07:06 PM
 
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My initial post with regard to Congresswoman Clarke's 9th district is a specific example of gerrymandering. Why are Hasidic and Orthodox Jews lumped in together with Caribbean Blacks? What do these two constituencies have in common? How can one congressperson possible serve the needs of groups as disparate as Hasidic/Orthodox Jews and Caribbean Blacks? The district is 50.5% black. Do you think that's a coincidence?
No no no

We not doing this

Give a specific example of how boundaries were manipulated

Tell us how the specific boundaries of a district were manipulated and how

Thatis gerrymandering, so give an example
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Old 01-10-2024, 07:22 PM
 
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No no no

We not doing this

Give a specific example of how boundaries were manipulated

Tell us how the specific boundaries of a district were manipulated and how

Thatis gerrymandering, so give an example
I don't think you understand redistricting or gerrymandering, especially as it pertains to NY. If you'd like, you can study up on the subject and we can have an interesting conversation thereafter. Without this, it's a waste of both of our efforts. I would encourage you to particularly study the 2022 NY Supreme Court ruling which forced the legislature to redraw NY's legislative maps and which resulted in NY having some of the most competitive races in the nation.
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Old 01-10-2024, 07:32 PM
 
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I don't think you understand redistricting or gerrymandering, especially as it pertains to NY. If you'd like, you can study up on the subject and we can have an interesting conversation thereafter. Without this, it's a waste of both of our efforts. I would encourage you to particularly study the 2022 NY Supreme Court ruling which forced the legislature to redraw NY's legislative maps and which resulted in NY having some of the most competitive races in the nation.
I posted both definitions, there's nothing to understand

You brought up gerrymandering, not me

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ger·ry·man·der
/ˈjerēˌmandər/
verb
gerund or present participle: gerrymandering
manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

So give a specific example of how boundaries are manipulated so as to favor one party or class
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Old 01-10-2024, 07:45 PM
 
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I'm an intellect, all I care about is learning, that's why I ask questions and supplement the answers I receive with research

If you can't provide me with a specific example of gerrymandering even after I provided the definition, then I don't understand why we should continue the dialogue :-(
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Old 01-10-2024, 08:31 PM
 
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I'm an intellect, all I care about is learning, that's why I ask questions and supplement the answers I receive with research

If you can't provide me with a specific example of gerrymandering even after I provided the definition, then I don't understand why we should continue the dialogue :-(
You're putting the cart before the horse. By asking me to provide you with a specific example of gerrymandering, you are exposing your lack of understanding of the issue at hand. Gerrymandering is a given. It's like the law of gravity. Imagine asking me to prove that gravity exists if we want to discuss the design of aircraft. It's just a waste of time at that point.
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Old 01-10-2024, 08:34 PM
 
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You're putting the cart before the horse. By asking me to provide you with a specific example of gerrymandering, you are exposing your lack of understanding of the issue at hand. Gerrymandering is a given. It's like the law of gravity. Imagine asking me to prove that gravity exists if we want to discuss the design of aircraft. It's just a waste of time at that point.
No, nothing is given except death and taxes

If you can't give a proper example just say so, so I can research it myself and stop wasting my time. I'm asking you to explain because I assumed you knew what you were talking about. Why speak on something you know nothing about. This is part of the problem here.
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Old 01-10-2024, 08:38 PM
 
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No, nothing is given except death and taxes

If you can't give a proper example just say so, so I can research it myself and stop wasting my time. I'm asking you to explain because I assumed you knew what you were talking about. Why speak on something you know nothing about. This is part of the problem here.
I provided a proper example but you didn't seem to comprehend/notice it. It is in my initial post. Feel free to revisit and then we can have a spirited discussion!
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Old 01-10-2024, 08:41 PM
 
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I provided a proper example but you didn't seem to comprehend/notice it. It is in my initial post. Feel free to revisit and then we can have a spirited discussion!
I see a politician making a request, I don't see any boundaries being manipulated so as to favor one party or class. How were the boundaries specifically manipulated to favor one party or class?

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ger·ry·man·der
/ˈjerēˌmandər/
verb
gerund or present participle: gerrymandering
manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"
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Old 01-10-2024, 08:46 PM
 
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I see a politician making a request, I don't see any boundaries being manipulated so as to favor one party or class. How were the boundaries specifically manipulated to favor one party or class?

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ger·ry·man·der
/ˈjerēˌmandər/
verb
gerund or present participle: gerrymandering
manipulate the boundaries of (an electoral constituency) so as to favor one party or class.
achieve (a result) by manipulating the boundaries of an electoral constituency.
"a total freedom to gerrymander the results they want"

I will provide you with hints on your journey of knowledge! I warn you in advance, it is boring reading but one can only drink from the fountain of knowledge through arduos study. I will await your newfound knowledge eagerly and with the utmost joy. I grant you luck in your journey, for it contains great rewards!

https://www.nycourts.gov/ctapps/Deci...3-Decision.pdf
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Old 01-10-2024, 08:57 PM
 
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I will provide you with hints on your journey of knowledge! I warn you in advance, it is boring reading but one can only drink from the fountain of knowledge through arduos study. I will await your newfound knowledge eagerly and with the utmost joy. I grant you luck in your journey, for it contains great rewards!

https://www.nycourts.gov/ctapps/Deci...3-Decision.pdf
I'm not an attorney, can you summarize for me? The links I provide are in laymans terms.
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