NY Democrats already prepping the FDR and West Side Highway for future tolls

[sirtiger]

Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident

Elections have consequences.

Absolutely. If Trump won 2020, congestion pricing would have been dead in its tracks.

[Coney]

Originally Posted by BugsyPal

Meanwhile on other side of things every business, who or what ever is busy raising their prices (or planning to) so they can cover cost of "tolls" to enter Manhattan.

Give it a year or so after this scheme starts and you're going to see wage and price inflation for not just Manhattan but NYC in total as costs of tolls are simply passed on.

You *know* every GD union that begins contract negotiations this or next year are going to insist on either larger wage increases to cover CP tolls, and or otherwise something for their members so people won't be out of pocket.

Top of that list will be 32BJ and other service worker unions. Tons of those members drive into Manhattan for work and thus will be hit with CPT. Multi-family building staff alone (doormen, porters, janitors, etc...) often drive in to work.

Good points

[Powell on Property]

Originally Posted by sirtiger

Absolutely. If Trump won 2020, congestion pricing would have been dead in its tracks.

Think it was more about handing NY Democrats control of the legislature and governor's office. And thus also the appeals courts - a Republican judge hasn't been appointed upwards since the Pataki administration.

[prospectheightsresident]

Originally Posted by Powell on Property

Think it was more about handing NY Democrats control of the legislature and governor's office. And thus also the appeals courts - a Republican judge hasn't been appointed upwards since the Pataki administration.

That enabled it from a state level, but the federal government still had to approve the project, too, via the Federal Highway Administration. https://nylcv.org/news/congestion-pr...dministration/

[UrbanQuest]

Dems counting on older “tradition” voters and/or ethnic bloc's it seems. Or why else would anyone vote for what NYC is becoming. Esp. people who were around to witness the last time the city went down the toilet.

You can find independents; New York.

[BugsyPal]

Originally Posted by UrbanQuest

Dems counting on older “tradition” voters and/or ethnic bloc's it seems. Or why else would anyone vote for what NYC is becoming. Esp. people who were around to witness the last time the city went down the toilet.

You can find independents; New York.

Older "tradition" voters would be boomers or their parents generation. Former now all are senior citizens and latter (who remain) are elderly. Either way both are decreasing as they either die off or move house.

Democrats increasingly are relying upon elite, woke, progressive and or those with socialist/liberal tendencies along with minorities. Latter group is shifting from blacks to Latino/Hispanics along with Asians and some others.

Latino/Hispanics, Asians and other groups have seen how democrats played blacks and won't vote blindly in blocks unless they see results.

It's no wonder democrats in government are largely remaining quiet about Biden allowing hordes of "migrants", illegals and others from Latin American countries to invade USA. These invaders have family, friends or other supporters already in USA and good number are eligible to vote.

Ditto but to lesser extent goes for Asians who are also crossing southern border or otherwise being allowed in by Biden.