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Old 12-18-2008, 08:37 AM
 
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I ran across this photo essay on another forum and thought some of you may appreciate it. Very sobering, and its difficult to conceive how quickly the tides can change in our cities, from one extreme to the other, and then back again. 1995 was barely 10 years ago....

Brutal New York - 1965/95 - SkyscraperCity

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Old 12-18-2008, 09:24 AM
 
Location: NYC!!
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This has been posted before on this forum. Can't remember the name of the thread.
But thank you.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:01 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I was 16 in '95 and used to hang out in the Village all the time... it wasn't really that bad. 70's and 80's though, was a whooollllee different animal.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Yeah by 95 the worst had come and gone. The 80's were much worse.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:04 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The graffiti on the subways was out of control!
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:07 PM
 
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Anyone who believes that this picture is indicative of anything "brutal" in NYC has never been to New York. You can find an abandoned car in just about every neighborhood in this country! I can show you some real brutal pics...this sure ain't it. What a joke!
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Old 12-18-2008, 03:37 PM
 
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Anyone who believes that this picture is indicative of anything "brutal" in NYC has never been to New York. You can find an abandoned car in just about every neighborhood in this country! I can show you some real brutal pics...this sure ain't it. What a joke!
Did you actually look at/read the thread I linked to? The only reason I posted that picture was because of the ironic juxtaposition with the WTC...the center of the financial world, with unchecked poverty right at its feet.

You don't have to prove to me how "hardcore" you are or what you've seen, its not some contest. The point of the thread was to highlight how far parts of NY have come in a short period of time, and how quickly they can descend again. The photographer spent time among the poorest of the poor for decades, and I find his insight and commentary to be invaluable to understanding what it was like living in NY during what was arguably its most precarious hour. You want to talk "brutal"? I find the shot of the Wall Street banker walking past the poor woman to be the most striking of the set.

It dosent matter that these were shot in NY, it could be any American city. It has to do with the human condition and how we treat those who are less fortunate than we are.

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Old 12-18-2008, 06:57 PM
 
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yeah this is the new york city i remember as a child.
i'll never forget the crackheads, they were everywhere.
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Concrete jungle where dreams are made of.
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I was too young to recognize crackheads, but I remember as a little kid in the 80s, the city was a lot lot lot dirtier than today. I remember seeing bums all over the place (I guess those were some of the crackheads), garbage, and graffiti. I vaguely remember my family driving through the Bronx on the highways and seeing the south Bronx's condition.

I read in this article that there was this mantra back in the 70s-90s(?): "Take the 5, stay alive--take the 4, dead for sure" ever hear of that one?
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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I was too young to recognize crackheads, but I remember as a little kid in the 80s, the city was a lot lot lot dirtier than today. I remember seeing bums all over the place (I guess those were some of the crackheads), garbage, and graffiti. I vaguely remember my family driving through the Bronx on the highways and seeing the south Bronx's condition.

I read in this article that there was this mantra back in the 70s-90s(?): "Take the 5, stay alive--take the 4, dead for sure" ever hear of that one?
here goes another one i heard recently about Alphabet City:

If you're on Avenue A you're adventurous
If you're on Avenue B you're brave
If you're on Avenue C you're crazy
If you're on Avenue D you're dead

i dont know how well you know the lower east side rachel, but lillian wald houses and jacob riis houses are on avenue d.
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