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Old 08-15-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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Your point seems to be that you get an adrenaline rush from being a jerk to a kid. If I were your girlfriend, I would think that more than weird.
I'm in agreement...if my boyfriend did something like this, I'd be VERY turned off. You could have just said, "No, sorry." and kept on walking. It's no secret that a lot of people on the streets are mentally ill and have nowhere else to turn. You're lucky you didn't get stabbed or somethin'.

I'm a big fan of the phrase "there but for the grace of God go (you or) I". We have no idea what drove this young man to panhandle on the streets...maybe he's a bum who never worked a day in his life. Conversely, maybe he had a horrible upbringing filled with abuse and didn't have the resources to live as a "normal" person. But the fact that you got an adrenaline rush from being cruel to someone says a LOT about your character...and not in a good way.

Personally, I'd rather get my adrenaline rush from doing something that pulls another human being out of the depths of despair.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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If you are going to fantasize about harming every street person as a retribution for your lost relative, then you should probably seek therapy for your transference issues.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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I deal with a fair amount of panhandling working in NYC. It's not as bad as it was from the 70s-90s, but it still exists. The thing is I don't know who's scamming and who's really just down on their luck. I don't give to panhandlers, but I don't get nasty/get into it with pandhandlers.

What if it's someone who's really down on their luck? I'd feel bad about making their life even worse. If it's a scammer or violent criminal or someone mentally ill how do you know it's not going to get physical? Even with polite nos or not saying anything, I've had to deal with some aggressive panhandlers. Trying to provoke one isn't a bright idea and people could get hurt, including innocent bystanders.

Once, in a crowded commuter terminal, some guy said something nasty to a homeless guy who replied by spitting at him. The crowd moved back as the two of them started beating each other and as I was moving back, I hit my head on a pillar. Fortunately not hard enough to lose consciouness or anything, but it did hurt for awhile. While the homeless guy was in the wrong for spitting, it wasn't that bright of the guy to start with him in the first place, and I hold him responsible too for creating the situation where I ended up hitting my head.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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I personally know two people like you dave given the same situations and one of them is my father and I won't go anywhere with him either. He smarted off to someone twice when I was with him and the second time the guy pulled out a gun and it was only him and I in an office in a remote location. I was madder than hell at him for doing it and told him the same exact thing I'm telling you - you not only put yourself in harms way you are making that decision for others. I was in college at the time too. I dated, briefly. when I was young and in high school, a guy who acted like that and it was over real quick. I've been exposed to it for a long, long time now, not just my recent readings. Even then, I knew it was a distaster waiting to happpen and that behavior was not only not a turn on it was a complete turn off. Both of them had issues they really needed to work on that were way below the surface.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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I'm an adrenaline junky, this does not make me a loose cannon or a Psychopath.
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I would've just said no anything else is just plain weird.
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Old 08-15-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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I'm an adrenaline junky, this does not make me a loose cannon or a Psychopath.
All depends on what you do and we don't know your story.

Are you getting your rise out of the detriment of another person, i.e, kicking sand in someone's face, belittling other people, picking off the weak members of the herd and then after that high wears off, start boasting about it to people, not get a positive response and then still go somewhere else and post about it to get more attention and adreneline rush out of it, no differently than if the story was plastered on page one of the newspaper? I may be misinformed, but I believe dave is out of high school. In the specific situation, we have someone getting off on the same things a high school bully would do and those that torture small animals for kicks. It's a twisted power and control thing that gives him the adrenaline rush.
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Does she think it's weird that you got a rush from a fantasy physical altercation? Because I did. I don't get the big deal for you. Saying no to a panhandler is pretty standard stuff for urban dwellers.
Agreed. Nothing more to do then say a simple "I don't have any change" and move on. People can be very unpredictable.

Reminds me of a situation about 2 years ago in Brooklyn where i tried to give homeless man a sandwich from Dunkin donuts. This was a guy that had been out there on the streets for years as well. When i offered him the food he flipped out screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO Get away!!!" and shuffled off. Glad that was the end of it. Saw the same guy the other day again and thought of that.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Let me get this straight.

Did somebody actually start a thread to announce to everyone in Cyberworld that a panhandler asked him for money and he refused?

Seriously? Like, this is postworthy for some reason?

And then, people actually responded?

Is there a most pathetic thread contest? 'Cause we've got an entry right here.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:34 PM
 
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Let me get this straight.

Did somebody actually start a thread to announce to everyone in Cyberworld that a panhandler asked him for money and he refused?

Seriously? Like, this is postworthy for some reason?

And then, people actually responded?

Is there a most pathetic thread contest? 'Cause we've got an entry right here.

You missed how he then went on to think about how tough he would have been had the situation turned out differently. And he's very impressed with that fantasy.
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