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Old 01-19-2018, 04:01 PM
 
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Recently started a job which I absolutely enjoy going to. (Surprising in this market). After the first weeks of learning the skills and training...I also learned cattiness is alive and well . One co worker enjoys taunting the newbies. Beyond that my one boss is a bit too opinionated about our team members. I may have my personal views of team members (mostly positive and encouraging). My boss though says things that are best served directly with the employee privately and not within earshot of
workers. It makes us team members feel undervalued.
Curious if I should gently say something or just bury my head and let the morale erode the team. I'm overly a believer in accentuating the positive in folks to encourage better results. So I pose....Is silence (put up and shut up warranted) in this matter? Or what can be done to ease the boss's mouth from being engaged in public areas of our faculty? His boss is aware and says while he's abrasive he knows the market. She is a wise and. Diplomatic boss.
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Old 01-19-2018, 05:00 PM
 
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You've been there how long exactly? Based on your words, not nearly long enough to make your dissenting opinions known to anyone. In this case, your silence is indeed going to be considered golden.
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Old 01-19-2018, 05:03 PM
 
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I concur with Mattie.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:06 PM
 
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You've been there how long exactly? Based on your words, not nearly long enough to make your dissenting opinions known to anyone. In this case, your silence is indeed going to be considered golden.
Thanks ! So put up and shut up .Gotcha every boss's dream answer.

I'll keep that wisdom and disregard the underlying message of you're new so you don't get a say.
ahh fresh eyes to see and a closed mouth to hum with
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:05 PM
 
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Thanks ! So put up and shut up .Gotcha every boss's dream answer.

I'll keep that wisdom and disregard the underlying message of you're new so you don't get a say.
ahh fresh eyes to see and a closed mouth to hum with
It's not just every boss's dream answer. It's the wise thing to do.
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:26 AM
 
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It's not just every boss's dream answer. It's the wise thing to do.
Yes at this point I have to grudgingly agree. Silence may be golden, but there's another wise saying; there is a proper time and place for everything. Stepping in right now may be premature. OP, its not because we think what you described is acceptable, its that you are new enough that your opinion doesn't carry much weight YET. You may not realize some of the undercurrents in your office yet. If you start delivering unsolicited suggestions to management you'll come off as an arrogant know-it-all. That's not going to endear you to anyone and they may simply ignore you. It could backfire on you. However, you can start earning the ear and respect of your managers by behaving professionally and honestly with all. When opportunities to change policies come up, volunteer to get involved. When the chance for feedback comes up, give it. If someone asks staff how to improve something, make suggestions instead of simply criticize. Don't mimic the bad stuff you see in others. Don't be catty, don't make snide remarks, gossip, or treat others disrespectfully. They will learn that you are someone to be trusted with a good head on your shoulders. That's going to give what you say some weight.

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Old 01-20-2018, 01:08 AM
 
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If you're not yet a target by the judgmental boss or gossiping co-workers, try to stay that way. If you're in their crosshairs, then silence, the high road etc isn't really going to save you.
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Old 01-20-2018, 05:50 AM
 
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Thanks ! So put up and shut up .Gotcha every boss's dream answer.

I'll keep that wisdom and disregard the underlying message of you're new so you don't get a say.
ahh fresh eyes to see and a closed mouth to hum with
You know you could have saved yourself some time and just do what you want instead of feigning interest in others' answers. Methinks you're not as positive as you think you are.
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Old 01-20-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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Recently started a job which I absolutely enjoy going to. (Surprising in this market). After the first weeks of learning the skills and training...I also learned cattiness is alive and well . One co worker enjoys taunting the newbies. Beyond that my one boss is a bit too opinionated about our team members. I may have my personal views of team members (mostly positive and encouraging). My boss though says things that are best served directly with the employee privately and not within earshot of
workers. It makes us team members feel undervalued.
Curious if I should gently say something or just bury my head and let the morale erode the team. I'm overly a believer in accentuating the positive in folks to encourage better results. So I pose....Is silence (put up and shut up warranted) in this matter? Or what can be done to ease the boss's mouth from being engaged in public areas of our faculty? His boss is aware and says while he's abrasive he knows the market. She is a wise and. Diplomatic boss.
Yes but duct tape is silver.

My friend has a sign in the kitchen at his cafe.
If you see someone doing something wrong, unless it's your official position to say something please shut your mouth.

He is wise and diplomatic.
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:20 PM
 
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Yes at this point I have to grudgingly agree. Silence may be golden, but there's another wise saying; there is a proper time and place for everything. Stepping in right now may be premature. OP, its not because we think what you described is acceptable, its that you are new enough that your opinion doesn't carry much weight YET. You may not realize some of the undercurrents in your office yet. If you start delivering unsolicited suggestions to management you'll come off as an arrogant know-it-all. That's not going to endear you to anyone and they may simply ignore you. It could backfire on you. However, you can start earning the ear and respect of your managers by behaving professionally and honestly with all. When opportunities to change policies come up, volunteer to get involved. When the chance for feedback comes up, give it. If someone asks staff how to improve something, make suggestions instead of simply criticize. Don't mimic the bad stuff you see in others. Don't be catty, don't make snide remarks, gossip, or treat others disrespectfully. They will learn that you are someone to be trusted with a good head on your shoulders. That's going to give what you say some weight.
Well we have no idea what "recently" means, and the OP never said even after being asked. Is is two weeks, two months, etc.?

When you're the "new kid on the block" best to keep your mouth shut, and your ear to the ground, find out who the backstabbers are.

I have always found the ones who start telling you right away who to watch and want to be your best friend, and the worst ones...LOL.
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