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Old 01-29-2017, 04:56 PM
 
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What are the odds? I'm sure there are many families that raised their children with good morals, manners, habits, etc., but maybe a kid or two strayed and rebelled and got into drugs, crime and other similar troubles.

What are the odds that great parents with 3 kids ended up with 3 not so good kids....awful to be exact. Does that speak at all to their parenting?

What are your thoughts?

Definition of awful:

Single and pregnant with many baby daddies
Felony crimes
Love to date criminals
Unemployed and living off government and brag about it
Drugs - even started meth lab in home around kids
Act like gangsters
Have many children but take care of none - but keep having babies.
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Old 01-29-2017, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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Is this a "nature vs. nurture" discussion?

And who are these people, anyway?
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Old 01-29-2017, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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What is your definition of "great parents"? And is this from the parents point of view or the children's point of view?
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Old 01-29-2017, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Denver 'burbs
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Big difference between "less than perfect" (everyone) and bad and troubled. 3 completely different things.
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Old 01-29-2017, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The rare time that I hear about a supposed "good family" that is "2 for 2" or "3 for 3" with adult children on the negative side I strongly suspect that there is "more to the story". Whether it is hidden abuse, neglect, mental illness, alcoholism, control issues, poor parenting or whatever I suspect that there is more going on.

Now they may be absolutely wonderful parents and just had some bad luck with their kids or maybe bad circumstances beyond their control (bad neighborhood, job loss leading to severe financial problems, caring for elderly parents that overwhelmed them or whatever) but I really wonder.

And, sometimes it is because the younger sibling/s looks up to their older sibling/s as role models and want to be "just like them" rather than follow in their parents footsteps.
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:14 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Is this a "nature vs. nurture" discussion?

And who are these people, anyway?
This reminds me of the "what do you think of a couple that gets married while living with the guys' mom, then threatens the mom to gift them her house" thread. Who the heck are these people, and why do so many people care about other people's business?
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Old 01-29-2017, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I would venture a guess that behind closed doors these parents weren't as perfect as they appear and there was some kind of abuse - physical, sexual, psychological - going on.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:01 PM
 
Location: here
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Big difference between "less than perfect" (everyone) and bad and troubled. 3 completely different things.
Ya, this.

We're all less than perfect, so those odds are pretty good.

There are a wide range of ways to parent, and no real way to simplify it to "good" and "bad."

If all 3 kids have major issues, then maybe the parenting wasn't so good. Things can be very different behind closed doors, than they are in public.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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Could a set of great parents raise 3 less than perfect children?
EVERYONE'S children are less than perfect.
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Old 01-29-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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I would venture a guess that behind closed doors these parents weren't as perfect as they appear and there was some kind of abuse - physical, sexual, psychological - going on.
Either that or they were narcissists wrapped up in themselves and their life together, ignoring the kids. Kids who grow up without guidance and parental involvement can get lost, and end up getting in trouble with the law.I've seen that with parents who were otherwise "upstanding" pillar-of-the-community types, but they ignored their kids, or sent them to boarding school. Neglect of that sort is a form of abuse.
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