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Why would Democrats protest a system to allow low income families to go to private schools? I thought they wanted equality? Isn't that providing more equality than the poor having school choice limited to public schools? I don't get it. But then again, I'm with Republicans on half the issues and Democrats on the other half. Nothing makes any sense to me...it's all a crap shoot.
Why would Democrats protest a system to allow low income families to go to private schools? I thought they wanted equality? Isn't that providing more equality than the poor having school choice limited to public schools? I don't get it. But then again, I'm with Republicans on half the issues and Democrats on the other half. Nothing makes any sense to me...it's all a crap shoot.
50/50 on the party lines? I can empathize.
It is a tough world for a reasonable deliberative moderate/Libertarian when the strident voices of the left and right screech self-righteously about the divine truth their standard bearers exclusively uphold in their zeal to enforce the selective reductions of others' liberties which they do not respect.
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It is a tough world for a reasonable deliberative moderate/Libertarian when the strident voices of the left and right screech self-righteously about the divine truth their standard bearers exclusively uphold in their zeal to enforce the selective reductions of others' liberties they do not respect.
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That's basically where I stand.
A hard shift to the right is unappealing. So is a hard shift to the left, though.
I don't disagree with these protests. Our legislature is horribly unbalanced at the moment.
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Why would Democrats protest a system to allow low income families to go to private schools? I thought they wanted equality? Isn't that providing more equality than the poor having school choice limited to public schools? I don't get it. But then again, I'm with Republicans on half the issues and Democrats on the other half. Nothing makes any sense to me...it's all a crap shoot.
Because the bottom line goal of these Republicans is to turn the country into a CHRISTIAN nation, and this is one way to use PUBLIC FUNDS to fund CHRISTIAN schools. Most "private" schools they're talking about are CHRISTIAN.
They want everyone to think and act ONE WAY...sort of like the Taliban.
There is no such thing as "equality" in the Republican platform.
Because the bottom line goal of these Republicans is to turn the country into a CHRISTIAN nation, and this is one way to use PUBLIC FUNDS to fund CHRISTIAN schools. Most "private" schools they're talking about are CHRISTIAN.
So who cares if there are Christian private schools that can have tuition paid for through vouchers. There are also Jewish, Muslim and Non-Sectarian schools. The whole point is the citizen gets the CHOICE which school they want to go to. So poor people HAVE to go to non-religious public schools. What if they want their kids to go to a religious school? Too bad, that choice doesn't exist for them.
This is the kind of thing I don't get. This is very inconsistent reasoning. Either you want freedom of choice or you don't. You can't say they should only get to choose things that you agree with.
Being Jewish myself, there are certainly times when Christian beliefs contradict my own, but I have a strong belief in freedom and autonomy of mankind.
So who cares if there are Christian private schools that can have tuition paid for through vouchers. There are also Jewish, Muslim and Non-Sectarian schools. The whole point is the citizen gets the CHOICE which school they want to go to. So poor people HAVE to go to non-religious public schools. What if they want their kids to go to a religious school? Too bad, that choice doesn't exist for them.
This is the kind of thing I don't get. ... I have a strong belief in freedom and autonomy of mankind.
Ahhhh. There is the source of your discontent. You are outside the mainstream too far to relate to either party.
It's like a bridge player trying to relate to two football teams to pick one to root for based on trump.
So who cares if there are Christian private schools that can have tuition paid for through vouchers. There are also Jewish, Muslim and Non-Sectarian schools. The whole point is the citizen gets the CHOICE which school they want to go to. So poor people HAVE to go to non-religious public schools. What if they want their kids to go to a religious school? Too bad, that choice doesn't exist for them.
This is the kind of thing I don't get. This is very inconsistent reasoning. Either you want freedom of choice or you don't. You can't say they should only get to choose things that you agree with.
Being Jewish myself, there are certainly times when Christian beliefs contradict my own, but I have a strong belief in freedom and autonomy of mankind.
I agree with what you're saying here.
I do not, however, think that school vouchers should be used to send kids to private, religious schools.
Of any kind.
It is de facto funding of a religious organization.
This applies to private schools that are affiliated with a specific church, synagogue, etc.
Ones that are unaffliliated are fine. It's not that I think a private school should not have a religious slant.
I attended Meredith College. It is, by its own description, a Baptist women's college.
It is not, however, run by a particular church. Churches themselves should not be funded in any way by state funds.
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Ahhhh. There is the source of your discontent. You are outside the mainstream too far to relate to either party.
It's like a bridge player trying to relate to two football teams to pick one to root for based on trump.
Well, I do believe in freedom, but I also think that freedom should not extend to the point that individuals or corporations are allowed to damage shared resources. I'm definitely an environmentalist. I don't like that we have cancer pockets in the US from the poor air quality of refineries and that sort of thing. I don't like that foods are filled with all kinds of toxins and the average consumer doesn't realize it is dangerous. I don't know how to allow both autonomy and a healthy/safe environment. But there has to be some kind of middle ground where the US can both thrive and live within some kind of self-imposed limitations to the benefit of all. Being part of a community is necessarily making sacrifices for others within the community.
I do not, however, think that school vouchers should be used to send kids to private, religious schools.
Of any kind.
It is de facto funding of a religious organization.
This applies to private schools that are affiliated with a specific church, synagogue, etc.
Ones that are unaffliliated are fine. It's not that I think a private school should not have a religious slant.
I attended Meredith College. It is, by its own description, a Baptist women's college.
It is not, however, run by a particular church. Churches themselves should not be funded in any way by state funds.
I totally agree that churches or other religious organizations should not be funded by public money. But I don't think that is the same thing as using government funds to support an institution whose PRIMARY objective is academic education, even if that organization has a statement of faith. If that school is actually affiliated with and supported by a religious organization, that is a different matter.
But I'm also okay with agreeing to disagree. :-) We all have our own beliefs and that's okay.
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