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Old 09-12-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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Clearly, the folks who decided to suspend this teacher had their own personal agenda. Sadly, a powerful message was sent to gay students (and gay faculty) attending that school.
Yes, the message is that if you show something:

"...outside the bounds of the curriculum”

you will face disciplinary action. That is the reason and it is a good one. I can't think of any reason to show any music video in school unless it is a music or filmography class. This reeks of an attempt at indoctrination.
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Old 09-12-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Suburbia
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The superintendent said it was outside the bounds of the curriculum. I don't know what subject the teacher has or if this video has anything at all to do with that class, but to be safe he probably shouldn't have shown a video not approved by the district. I don't show any videos that don't directly support our Program of Studies. I won't show any videos that are not approved by the school district.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:29 AM
 
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I can't think of any reason to show any music video in school unless it is a music or filmography class. This reeks of an attempt at indoctrination.

Yeah, we can't have teachers using available tools to teach kids to think critically or otherwise expose them to different points of view. How can we prepare them for the real world by bombarding them with ideas from, you know, the real world?
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:35 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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The superintendent said it was outside the bounds of the curriculum. I don't know what subject the teacher has or if this video has anything at all to do with that class, but to be safe he probably shouldn't have shown a video not approved by the district. I don't show any videos that don't directly support our Program of Studies. I won't show any videos that are not approved by the school district.
And the above is what many of our "expert" education posters don't get. Like it or not, agree with it or not, most school systems have approved films to show. Some like Glory, Schindler's List and Amistad had a version cut to meet school system standards.

If the teacher showed a video, regardless of content, which wasn't approved and a parent complained she was in the wrong.

And yes, I've shown unapproved ones but I'm also smart enough to know what is tolerated.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:55 AM
 
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Yeah, we can't have teachers using available tools to teach kids to think critically or otherwise expose them to different points of view. How can we prepare them for the real world by bombarding them with ideas from, you know, the real world?
If you look closely at the video, toward the end you will see that it was produced as political propaganda supporting Referendum 74 in the State of Washington, which, of course, is part of the homosexual "marriage" effort. In other words, this is not a legitimate tool designed to teach any kind of skills -- by its own admission, it is political propaganda developed by a narrowly focused pressure group with the intent to indoctrinate.

For those who have forgotten, the people of North Carolina have already spoken on this issue by way of a constitutional amendment.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:29 AM
 
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^ It's a matter of how it's presented by the teacher. If a teacher shows this film, acknowledges that it's produced by a group that supports gay marriage, then leads a discussion on how propaganda can be used to convey a message (without taking a pro or con position on the subject matter itself), there's an opportunity for students to learn from it.

I think it could be a great lesson on how to view propaganda (or anything else) critically.
It's really no different from showing a Hitler propaganda film and discussing how it may have affected those who were subjected to viewing it. It doesn't mean the teacher supports Hitler or is trying to get the students to agree with Nazi ideas.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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Apparently a video that promotes acceptance, equal rights, and tolerance is now indoctrination. Though, I do think the teacher should have used a less political video for his assignment, the video is practically harmless.

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For those who have forgotten, the people of North Carolina have already spoken on this issue by way of a constitutional amendment.
Okay? Amendment 1 is a perfect example of tyranny of the majority, and goes against having a republic in the first place. Rights of a certain group should not be held up for a vote for the masses to decide. And the amendment is idiotic anyway, considering gays could not get married in this state before, and the amendment not only took away benefits from gay couples, but straights as well. But I see it failing a few years, especially if it makes it to the SCOTUS.
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:03 AM
 
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But I see it failing a few years, especially if it makes it to the SCOTUS.
I see it falling too, as American culture approaches ever closer to the lowest-imaginable common denominator.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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I'm sure that what it boils down to is that the teacher failed to run it by their supervisors, the kids went home, told their parents how their day was, the parents, whose marriage began to be threatened upon hearing of this, went to the school to complain about the threats to their sanctity, and the school, who didn't know it happened in the first place, had to punish the teachers.
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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If the teacher would have asked permission to show the video, it wouldn't have been approved- backed by some ridiculous claim of it being against some type of rule.

It isn't very much of a surprise being that it came from Alexander County.
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