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Metros are recalculated every 10 years. Counties can be added or dropped. Personally, I'm pulling for Gainesville & Rome to land big employers that change commuting patterns & pull out some counties. Y'know, like what happened with Raleigh Durham & with Greenville Spartanburg. Before the feds invented metros, city size depended on the population of the city.
The feds didn't invent metropolitan areas; they devised ways to quantify them. A metropolitan area is simply a labor market and after automobiles became commonplace, homes in suburbia became affordable due to low interest government-backed loans, and the interstate highway system increased connectivity between cities and surrounding areas, these labor markets expanded and the populations serving them quickly exploded. We don't live in the days of horses and carriages anymore so metropolitan areas are the best way to determine the true size of a city, which transcends arbitrary municipal boundaries.
And Gainesville already has its own MSA. Any counties that it and Rome absorb into their MSAs are more likely to be to the north of those cities, as they are more rural and those residents are more likely to travel there for jobs. And the lack of interstate connections make it highly unlikely that Rome would ever snatch counties away from metro Atlanta and even if this does happen, those counties won't amount to much in terms of population. Georgia has small counties so I seriously doubt any metro population loss for Atlanta would exceed 250K persons, and that's being very generous. Metro Atlanta would make that up within 2-3 years' time, if not sooner.
What happens when Charlotte, High Point, Greensboro, Burlington, Durham and Raleigh all growth together? What will the US census do then?
Assuming that there would still be a U.S. as we know it, I suspect that there would be a change in the way metropolitan areas are designated--especially since there would probably be advances in transportation and work patterns (e.g., telecommuting) that would completely upend the traditional commuting model as we know it.
Awwww the "Big City" leaders are upset. Because the State may help the Capitol City While getting a few new buildings to house State employees,out of the deal.Oh the horror
With leaders like that,let's just say it explains a lot
At the moment neither Charlotte, nor Raleigh look adequately prepared to win one of these first two bids being given at some point this year. Though to be fair, other than Sacramento, all eleven of the other bids have hit not so minor roadblocks in one manner or another.
Can not read the article, so this is the first I have hear this. But Charlotte and Raleigh has mothing to fight over. I not seen anything on Charlotte news about this. North Carolina may be pass this go round.
Awwww the "Big City" leaders are upset. Because the State may help the Capitol City While getting a few new buildings to house State employees,out of the deal.Oh the horror
With leaders like that,let's just say it explains a lot
Here's a 1996 football game in uptown Charlotte. The Panthers beat the defending Superbowl Champion Cowboys that day in the playoffs.
Given Charlotte's sports history over the last 26 years, where would you rank a MLS bid? I think it's fair to say that this is a much bigger deal for Raleigh than it is for Charlotte.
However, (big deal or not) the state can't play favorites. Any deal (from NC) that is given to Raleigh's bid should also be offered to Charlotte's bid. Or at the very least, the state should offer a similar amount to the Hornets or Panthers to even things out.
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The feds didn't invent metropolitan areas; they devised ways to quantify them. A metropolitan area is simply a labor market and after automobiles became commonplace, homes in suburbia became affordable due to low interest government-backed loans, and the interstate highway system increased connectivity between cities and surrounding areas, these labor markets expanded and the populations serving them quickly exploded. We don't live in the days of horses and carriages anymore so metropolitan areas are the best way to determine the true size of a city, which transcends arbitrary municipal boundaries.
And Gainesville already has its own MSA. Any counties that it and Rome absorb into their MSAs are more likely to be to the north of those cities, as they are more rural and those residents are more likely to travel there for jobs. And the lack of interstate connections make it highly unlikely that Rome would ever snatch counties away from metro Atlanta and even if this does happen, those counties won't amount to much in terms of population. Georgia has small counties so I seriously doubt any metro population loss for Atlanta would exceed 250K persons, and that's being very generous. Metro Atlanta would make that up within 2-3 years' time, if not sooner.
Metros are used for certain purposes. Similar, but different are retail areas & media markets. They have their functions but they are not the actual size of any given municipality. Actual population of municipalities still has functionality.
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Assuming that there would still be a U.S. as we know it, I suspect that there would be a change in the way metropolitan areas are designated--especially since there would probably be advances in transportation and work patterns (e.g., telecommuting) that would completely upend the traditional commuting model as we know it.
Given Charlotte's sports history over the last 26 years, where would you rank a MLS bid? I think it's fair to say that this is a much bigger deal for Raleigh than it is for Charlotte.
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That's not even mentioning the MLB commissioner's recent comments regarding MLB expansion and Charlotte. Little bro could use a bone thrown their way
Given Charlotte's sports history over the last 26 years, where would you rank a MLS bid? I think it's fair to say that this is a much bigger deal for Raleigh than it is for Charlotte.
However, (big deal or not) the state can't play favorites. Any deal (from NC) that is given to Raleigh's bid should also be offered to Charlotte's bid. Or at the very least, the state should offer a similar amount to the Hornets or Panthers to even things out.
Charlotte doesn't have a sports history. At least a positive one. Truth be told,your teams suck. At least in a historical sense. No one remembers where the final four was. Only the team that finally won it really matters. As much as y'all go on and on about PRO SPORTS. I'm surprised that you even went there.
As far as giving Charlotte the same deal. Not possible sorry. Unless there's a underused state complex Uptown that we don't know about. Let's call this advantages of be the Capital City.
NBA all star game in 91 man please. NHL all star game. NHL World Title🙊,plus two National Titles. That's not even counting the other 11 on the other end of Tobacco Road. You might want to post some skyline shots or something. Maybe some light rail updates. Because this isn't a subject y'all do well in.
https://youtu.be/8l5N2eKdvL4
This is what you call sports history! Hosting someone else's Championship,man please! I would post a video of NC's only professional sports world title, but what's the point
Ok I'll bite https://youtu.be/oHky-DO5Yf0
Hell will freeze over before this happens in Charlotte IMO lol
For all the bragging about pro sports your teams suck. They have done nothing but make NC look bad. The Hornets/bobcats pitiful. The Panthers chocked twice in the big game,pitiful! A MLS team would probably suck. A MLB team would probably suck too. It must be something in the water down there that causes chocking. Maybe it's the Duke energy coal ash.
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. Because the State may help the Capitol City
While getting a few new buildings to house State employees,out of the deal.Oh the horror
