04-11-2008, 05:18 PM
Location: Sunshine N'Blue Skies
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Ok now that everyone is happy just let Summering put in two more cents........LOL
Ok true story here, one of these believe it or not, but......I swear this is true.
I had a good friend, he wanted to ride a dangerous vehicle........I tried to persuade not!
As I stood by my kitchen window one day, I looked one block over and saw some newspapers blowing in the wind, at the newspaper boys home driveway........lifting up.......all the right side edges. I was wondering why this caught my eye.........
It came to me ( a phrase I don't really believe in, but non the less) " all we are when we die, is a newspaper blowing in the wind"..........( we are more for sure)
I shook my head........it was like what I was thinking I didn't want to believe.
The newspaper was delivered. I went straight to the obituaries............and.........
Just what I thought would be there, WAS..........the name of my friend who I tried to get not to go on that. So, I have personal reasons why I don't like dangerous things.
On the other hand......Summering has a badly scared up knee from becoming ONE with a bike, twisting and turning down a hill together.........I still love bikes. Buy new ones for the kids all the time. Most in the family ride bikes constantly. I love them........
Summering also, got bruised from ankle to hip.......totallly purple......on skiis. I still believe in skiing. Fantastic sport that one of my girls too took like a pro......
I still promote soccer ( you can break a bone or two, but.........you'll make it ok) I still support the baseball teams........yep, you can get a big, shiner but, you'll make it ok too.
Summering also dives off boats in coves with snakes going by........even though the little fellow got bit by one just last year. We'll be headed that way again soon.
Most in our family swim all year long, at the Y or at the Clubhouses......or pools.
All the kids have skateboards and ramps even!!! But, to add all sports into the fray is not what I was talking of at all........
So no.......I am not promoting sitting at home with videos. Or stopping all sports or all fun. In fact.........I am a person who loves outdoor fun.
You can break your arm, your leg, or bust your nose..........but I don't want to see someone in worse shape then that...........that is just me. I try to take less chances....
Remember they worked to make Nascars safer, I think they can make the ATVs safer too.
So no, our kids are not sitting home idol......they are busy and having fun.......
Smiles
04-14-2008, 07:31 PM
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i am involved a bit in this project and thank you, weluvpa, you are right. there is some land adjacent that is set up for conservation, but we are working with them to possibly expand the recreational offerings by incorporating walking, jogging, hiking, camping, rv's, etc. this study is important because it will lay the groundwork for future recreation at this site and surrounding area. it is being done by looking at the land responsibly. also, i believe it will help somewhat with the safety issues, since rules must be followed to use the facility and areas will be designated by difficulty. just wondering what anyone's thoughts were on what i think is an exciting development for our area.
04-14-2008, 09:13 PM
Location: Drama Central
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I think its great. This is a great project for our area and in my opinion will be a win win for all that are involved, this is something that I am willing to get behind and if I can help in anyway just ask.
04-14-2008, 09:15 PM
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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Once again I agree with Dan. (Good Lord this is a frightening trend!)
LOL! I'm 100% behind such a project, and I wish you and your associates, Vince, the best of luck in getting this launched. I have a lot of "pull" when it comes to online social networking (MySpace, FaceBook, etc.), so let me know if I can be of any help to "spread the word" on there as well for some free advertising for you.
04-17-2008, 09:33 AM
Location: near Mansfield, PA
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Sounds like a great idea. There definitely needs to be more "legal" places to ride ATV's. Some of the more remote townships near me permit ATV's on the roads, but it's more for practical purposes than recreation. With all the open space we have out here, you would be very surprised how difficult it is to find a place to ride, unless you buy your own tract of acreage.
04-20-2008, 08:09 PM
Location: Dallas, PA 18612
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I m getting ready to list my house with 20 acres in the Dallas area (after we add a 3 car garage this spring). We have motor cycles and quads galore here, including ourselves. It would be a awesome place for a park!
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04-25-2008, 08:30 AM
Location: PA
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Well...
Having helped with races and other things at NAW/Metor's Motorcycle club. I can say quad people are just like everyone else they just wanna have fun! They spend lot's of money and help the local economy. Look at the fact Quads aren't going away any time soon! They will, and do need to get quieter exhaust systems. The the manufacturers are working on that, but that doesn't stop "Johnny" form modifying his to make it more powerful and louder. They are all for the most part 4 strokes and don't smoke like the good ole 2 strokes.
Quad people come in 2 varities: The one's who load up the mega dollar tow rig that costs more then your Lexus and head out paying lot's o money in fuel costs to ride with family and visit many nice places! And the "Locals" who ride around the area. Both are looking to have fun and good time just as you heading out shopping or to the fav watering hole.
There are still the weekend warriors who ride just to make the most noise and show off! I have seen many instances where quads were the baby sitter! Parents buy them to get the kids out of the way so they can do as they please and not be bothered by the kids being under foot.
I agree we need a place to ride.The quad riders would love to have a place yet the local governing guys seem to dismiss this need. Paragon is closed and not relocating to NAW as far as I know! Will NAW do something to allow riding on their land I guess we have to wait and see! They have talked about it!
It has been tried at many places: Plymouth Flats, NAW, Earth Consevancy's IP road/Nanticoke area. As a member of North Eastern Pa Mountain Biking Association (NEPMTBA) and the Back Mountain Enduro Riders (BMER) I'm glad to help in any I can. We are working on things and we feel as everyone does give quads a place to ride. It is time and it is needed in our area!
Here's websites if anyone is interested in helping or learning about the quad industry and all it's workings!
[SIZE=12]ATVA Pa Atving.com - Pennsylvania atv off-road riding and forums ATV Trails on State Forest Land ATV Trails Located In Pennsylvania ATV Trails Majestic Trails - Welcome All Terrain Vehicle - Pennsylvania Super Trails (http://www.pa-conservation.org/atv.html - broken link)Mid-Atlantic ATV Trails ValleyAtvClub.org Home Mines and Meadows Home ATV UTV dirt bike quad riding trail trails safety mine underground pa camping RV resort membership gift rental Rock Run Recreation Area, The Premier ATV Recreation Park East of the Mississippi Permits Available for ATVs on Coal Company Land (http://www.wnep.com/global/story.asp?s=4538557 - broken link)http://www.amadistrict6.com/ www.bmer.org att. Bob Conners (working with Earth Conservancy to open the Glen Lyon area to legal ATVing)LVATV Home page
09-04-2008, 10:06 PM
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thanks for all of the input. should have a decision from the state soon about study and development.
09-05-2008, 03:58 AM
Location: Scranton Pennsylvania
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I am all for this park ... ATV riders need a place ... so give it to them ... I don't like them on the streets ... not that this is a huge problem in my neighborhood ... but occassionally they are out there and the noise drives me crazy.
09-05-2008, 12:43 PM
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People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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