Security cameras inside FCPS? (Fairfax Times article) (homes, high school)

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by Fern435

At my public high school in California, the worst that happened (that I knew about) would be a couple of kids might cut school to surf. Any rough kids were out of high school before I was there, but there weren't many.

Uh, that's where I'm from (Dana Hills HIgh). You must have not been paying attention. Our school even had designated smoking areas and a place out back where the loadies hung out. Did you never go to Friday night parties at other kids' houses when parents were absent? I can tell you as someone who grew up there and raised kids here, things have gotten much tamer. It's also reflected in the college atmosphere. People regularly offered you hash and coke in the dorms. Now, at least if my kids are being square with me, it's mainly beer and pot.

[CaliTerp07]

Originally Posted by Fern435

A dog trained to sniff for drugs would be a better deterrent than security cameras.

A dog trained to sniff for drugs isn't going to catch boys walking into the girls bathroom to do things that shouldn't be done in a middle or high school.

I don't think cameras will prevent things from happening by instilling fear, but when a kid comes to the office and says "I saw someone passing around drugs by this classroom at this time", or "My locker was broken into on Tuesday" they can pull up the footage to figure out which kids need to be interrogated.

[CaliTerp07]

Originally Posted by Fern435

At my public high school in California, the worst that happened (that I knew about) would be a couple of kids might cut school to surf. Any rough kids were out of high school before I was there, but there weren't many.

I felt the same way. I thought my high school was this happy little place where nothing bad happened, save ditching school once in a while to surf (I'm a so cal kid too).

Then I graduated.

And I found out that the kid who sat next to me in AP English was the resident drug dealer on campus, and regularly came to class high (I honestly had no idea). I found out that the cross country trail through the woods was the pot head hang out during lunch. I found out that some kids' parents would allow their kids to throw parties on the weekend and drink their alcohol and pass out on the couch so that they could "de-stress" after a long school week.

I'm convinced that most of the time, at most of the schools, if you aren't looking for it, you'll have no idea it exists. But it's there at every school for the kids who are looking for it.

[Fern435]

Originally Posted by CAVA1990

Uh, that's where I'm from (Dana Hills HIgh). You must have not been paying attention. Our school even had designated smoking areas and a place out back where the loadies hung out. Did you never go to Friday night parties at other kids' houses when parents were absent? I can tell you as someone who grew up there and raised kids here, things have gotten much tamer. It's also reflected in the college atmosphere. People regularly offered you hash and coke in the dorms. Now, at least if my kids are being square with me, it's mainly beer and pot.

I'm not from Dana Hills High (I grew up farther north along the coast). And contrary to what you claim, I was paying attention in high school. My father taught at my school.

I was in high school during the mid-to-late 80's, and from your posts I believe your high school years were at least 10 years earlier. I wasn't wearing bell bottoms with a macrame belt to high school.

During my time in college (at a UC campus), no one smoked pot or drank alcohol around me. They had other things to do. Perhaps UC Berkeley needed more courage to address the drug problem in their dorms.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by Fern435

I wasn't wearing bell bottoms with a macrame belt to high school.

That look was about 5-10 years before me. We usually wore shorts or swim trunks, fainbow flip flops, desert boots, earth shoes or adidas and hang ten tees or hawaiian shirts. Girls usually wore sun dresses or tube tops with short shorts and zories (remember those?). Puka shell necklaces for both. There was no effective dress code.

Originally Posted by Fern435

During my time in college (at a UC campus), no one smoked pot or drank alcohol around me.

Oh come on. Now I know you weren't paying attention.

Originally Posted by Fern435

Perhaps UC Berkeley needed more courage to address the drug problem in their dorms.

Not surprising since it took them months to evict the "tree people" so they could start remodeling Memorial Stadium.

[Fern435]

Originally Posted by CAVA1990

Oh come on. Now I know you weren't paying attention.

I don't get you at all. You claim students and parents make up "crazy things" about students using/dealing drugs at school when they (drugs) are not present, AND you claim I was not paying attention to anyone in my immediate environment in high school and college and drugs were all over the place.

Very contradicting and inconsistent.

(sigh) CAVA CAVA, your comments aren't making UC Berkeley look like a good school. Guess it's a good thing I chose not to go there.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by Fern435

I don't get you at all. You claim students and parents make up "crazy things" about students using/dealing drugs at school when they (drugs) are not present, AND you claim I was not paying attention to anyone in my immediate environment in high school and college and drugs were all over the place.

Well the point I'm trying to make is that security cameras are a disproportional response to a minimal problem that is likely becoming even more minimal as time goes on. Things are fine the way they are.

[Caladium]

Originally Posted by Fern435

Sounds like Arlington, Virginia had some wild high school days and nights!

Back in the day it sure did. Of course, it was also easy to avoid that scene if you wanted to.

On a related note, did you ever see that movie Remember the Titans? There's a side plot in that movie that really used to crack me up. T.C. Williams is portrayed as this school where all the boys have crew cuts. The side plot is this hippie dude (from California, of course) moves to town and he has long hair!!!! LOL yah right. Not that I went to TC Williams but it wasn't that different from my school. Back then at least half the guys in my graduating class had long hair, just like any other high school. Crew cuts? Only in the Disney version, LOL.

[JD984]

Originally Posted by CAVA1990

That look was about 5-10 years before me. We usually wore shorts or swim trunks, fainbow flip flops, desert boots, earth shoes or adidas and hang ten tees or hawaiian shirts. Girls usually wore sun dresses or tube tops with short shorts and zories (remember those?). Puka shell necklaces for both. There was no effective dress code.



Oh come on. Now I know you weren't paying attention.



Not surprising since it took them months to evict the "tree people" so they could start remodeling Memorial Stadium.

Personally, my mental image of CAVA1990 is the Judge Reinhold character from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

If he tells us he was more like Jeff Spicoli, he's got some serious explaining to do to his kids.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by JEB77

Personally, my mental image of CAVA1990 is the Judge Reinhold character from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

If he tells us he was more like Jeff Spicoli, he's got some serious explaining to do to his kids.

Funny, I was going to use Fast Times as a reference in my last post. Dazed and Confused was also a good approximation, though that was set somewhere in the Midwest I think.

I was somewhere between Judge and Spicoli. I'd have loved to have tried the pizza stunt but I don't believe we had delivered pizza in my area at the time. You had to go to a pizza parlor for it.