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Old 04-03-2016, 02:47 PM
 
Location: The Commonwealth of Virginia
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I have to say, on a residential street, I don't worry about keeping the left lane clear for passing. Seems like that should be for expressways.

Bigfoot, are you going to weigh in?

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Old 04-03-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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Please note the law states "normal speed of traffic"; not "legal speed limit".



My father received a ticket for failure to yield right for a "speeding" (maybe 5-7 miles over the limit) car. He fought it, and lost.

The officer indicated that the normal traffic on that road generally traveled 5-10 mph over the limit.
I side with spencgr on this one. Virginia 46.2-804 says normal speed of traffic.

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I can't tell you how many times I have heard this debate/argument.
The fact remains the same... legally... 4mph over (or below) the posted limit is a violation.

The left lane is not a personal race track as many seem to believe. I've seen kids with window stickers written in reverse that read "Move Over" when viewed in the rear view mirror.

Regardless... Ride my ass or flash those lights at me and you WILL be late for work.
The left lane is a passing lane... move over.
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Old 04-03-2016, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I can't tell you how many times I have heard this debate/argument.
The fact remains the same... legally... 4mph over (or below) the posted limit is a violation.

The left lane is not a personal race track as many seem to believe. I've seen kids with window stickers written in reverse that read "Move Over" when viewed in the rear view mirror.

Regardless... Ride my ass or flash those lights at me and you WILL be late for work.
Why is the speed limit the only law you care about? There is a law about slower traffic keeping to the right. Why is that law ignored by you?
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Old 04-03-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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Here in NoVA, it's probably MD drivers that don't understand that the left lane is a passing lane.

Left-Lane Passing Laws: A State-By-State Map
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Old 04-03-2016, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Chicago IL
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I can't tell you how many times I have heard this debate/argument.
The fact remains the same... legally... 4mph over (or below) the posted limit is a violation.

The left lane is not a personal race track as many seem to believe. I've seen kids with window stickers written in reverse that read "Move Over" when viewed in the rear view mirror.

Regardless... Ride my ass or flash those lights at me and you WILL be late for work.
Glad you are taking on the patriotic duty of enforcing traffic laws. You might be late for work when you do that to the wrong person and they follow you home. People with road rage are nothing you want to mess with because you want to prove a point. If you aren't passing or turning, stay out of the left lane. It's courtesy, it's safer than someone trying to take you from the right lane, and it's the law.
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Old 04-04-2016, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Here in NoVA, it's probably MD drivers that don't understand that the left lane is a passing lane.

Left-Lane Passing Laws: A State-By-State Map
It can be bad in MD, but sorry to tell you, it's just as bad in NoVA.
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Old 04-04-2016, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Cheektowaga, NY
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I think a lot of posters on this thread are missing that the OP was on a city street. Not an interstate or quasi-interstate (such as Route 28).
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Old 04-04-2016, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Tysons Corner
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Oh good this discussion again. This has been debated and debated on this forum. Both groups are wrong. The following matrix is the answer

1) Person in the left lane is only always wrong if doing below speed limit.
1A) Legally they shouldnt be in the left lane
1B) in terms of safe and recommended driving they shouldnt be in the left lane

2) Person in the left if going above the speed limit is:
2A) not legally required to move over (except for emergency vehicles)
2B) but should move over none the less and stay out of the left lane if not going with speed of traffic in terms of safe and recommended driving

Legal versus recommended, that is all.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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Oh good this discussion again. This has been debated and debated on this forum. Both groups are wrong. The following matrix is the answer

1) Person in the left lane is only always wrong if doing below speed limit.
1A) Legally they shouldnt be in the left lane
1B) in terms of safe and recommended driving they shouldnt be in the left lane

2) Person in the left if going above the speed limit is:
2A) not legally required to move over (except for emergency vehicles)
2B) but should move over none the less and stay out of the left lane if not going with speed of traffic in terms of safe and recommended driving

Legal versus recommended, that is all.
I love this discussion\argument. It fascinates me to see the individual skew on the legal system.
The 1st and foremost thing to remember is that Driving is a Privilege not a right.

This statement above is the the best and the most to the point I have seen. Kudos sir.
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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I love this discussion\argument. It fascinates me to see the individual skew on the legal system.
The 1st and foremost thing to remember is that Driving is a Privilege not a right.

This statement above is the the best and the most to the point I have seen. Kudos sir.
Then why did you state you won't do 2B?
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