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Old 05-29-2021, 05:01 AM
 
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Indeed, still waiting for specifics as to why CRT is wrong. It might be, but let's have some clear examples other than name calling. That only helps strengthen CRT proponents. For the south, race was the defining factor. In VA, it was the defining factor.

Take for example "black Englishmen." Black Englishmen is the term used for blacks in the early VA colony who were free. Yes, there were a few. In Northampton County, for example, the court records indicate that between 1664 and 1677, 101 Africans and Virginia born Blacks lived in the county, 53 male and 48 female. Of those, 13 were free householders—ten male and three female. Starting in the 1660's (read Hening's link above) legislation was passed to restrict their rights to hold property; their tax status was changed as was the religious status of Christian Blacks. By the legislative reforms of 1705, freed Blacks lost all rights: civil, religious and military, though voting was still allowed since voting did not give a free Black supervision of a white. Nonetheless, in 1723 they lost that right, even when owning property to vote for members of the House of Burgess. This systemic reduction in status continued even after the Revolution to where free Blacks could not work on their own if they had their owner's permission and when slave owners were still freeing them, the legislature intervened so that manumission required an act of the General Assembly.

And of course, then there was the industry of slave breeding in VA; by the 1860's, Richmond was a hub for it, exporting between 10,000 and 20,000 men, women and children to work further south.

All of this needs to be taught. Is it under the current standards? If not, why not? Shouldn't we know VA history? If CRT teaches it, so be it.

 
Old 05-29-2021, 05:02 AM
 
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CRT is leftist communist propaganda, it’s also hateful, divisive and evil. It needs to stop being taught and any teacher promoting it should be ashamed and embarrassed
 
Old 05-29-2021, 05:49 PM
 
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They seem to have a race problem between some white kids and black kids and between some white parents and black parents. The bullying and taunting includes charges of racism and anti-racism. Bullying is listed among the largest problem affect kids' learning.

You can see it in that some that are throwing CRT in as a scare or hate tactic. They can't discuss a subject straight up. They resort to name-calling and trash-talking.

It would not surprise me if this has boiled over to other groups in Loudoun that are emerging in numbers, such as Hispanics and Indian Asians, and with the conflict with Whites.

If it was a purely a subject matter problem, I wouldn't be looking at Math. It would be the lagging English scores for the Hispanics and how that can be improved. Otherwise, they seem to be holding up well with the other groups.
 
Old 05-29-2021, 08:40 PM
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/virginia-...lr27fQoKzsIEhI
 
Old 05-29-2021, 09:24 PM
 
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Marcuse successfully “internalized” Marxism by casting off the class aspects of it and attaching culture to the ideology, Cultural Marxism was born. Marcuse used Freud to get Hegelian thinking and Critical Theory into the psyche of the intelligentsia. Marcuse synthesized Marxism, Freud and Hegel into Critical Theory. Derrick Bell “synthesized” Critical Theory with Law to make Critical Legal Studies. Delgado, Bell, Crenshaw, Matsuda, et al “synthesized” CLS with Feminist and Black Liberation Theology to make Critical Race Theory. Crenshaw “synthesized” CRT with postmodernism to create Intersectionality.
The manufacturer is Marxism™. The model is Critical Theory. The operating system is the Hegelian Dialectic. The application is named CRT. The goal of the application is to get the Trojan Horse into the city by any means necessary.

There are probably better threads to discuss CRT in the POC forum:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...ght-our-4.html

https://www.city-data.com/forum/poli...aratist-4.html
 
Old 05-30-2021, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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And what are their goals.... specifically... please post them if you don't mind.

And which officials in loudoun are Soros-Funded... would love that information too...


I pray your just not regurgitating our former idiot in chiefs news bytes in an echo chamber because your are bored...


if you have facts and sources.. would love to see them to bring them up to others. Would be creepy to find out Soros is running around loudoun.


Side note... you live in a blue state... it has its good and bad... you can move if you hate it as I really don't see that changing anytime soon. As far as the marxist connection.. there is a good ny post article discussion making that connection and there are some articles that make good counters to it being marxist.

If that that is your concern.. cool... however if you simply wish to white wash the past... i think thats a dangerous road imo. Kinda like not labeling Jan6th as treason. Seems this young nation needs to find its true north.....


I await your links however... but if you have none feel free to sh*t post and carry on venting to each other.

"Treason" was the BLM/antifa mob storming the White House and forcing the evacuation of the president to the safety of the bunker, not some misguided protesters going on an unauthorized tour of the Capital.
 
Old 05-30-2021, 06:55 AM
 
Location: northern va
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Unauthorized tour

jesus
 
Old 05-30-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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NOVA is getting more diverse all the time, including Loudoun. Calling CRT "Marxist" or "socialist" is ridiculous. If one were to call the most strident opponents of it "fascist" they would likely be offended if not totally up in arms.

If Gillespie or Cuccinelli had won their respective Gubernatorial races, I believe we would have seen calls for supporting critical race theory come sooner.

To put in bluntly, I doubt one will see many (Northern) Virginians of color opposed to at least discussing critical race theory.
 
Old 05-30-2021, 09:13 AM
 
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NOVA is getting more diverse all the time, including Loudoun. Calling CRT "Marxist" or "socialist" is ridiculous. If one were to call the most strident opponents of it "fascist" they would likely be offended if not totally up in arms.

If Gillespie or Cuccinelli had won their respective Gubernatorial races, I believe we would have seen calls for supporting critical race theory come sooner.

To put in bluntly, I doubt one will see many (Northern) Virginians of color opposed to at least discussing critical race theory.
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Critical Theory has a narrow and a broad meaning in philosophy and in the history of the social sciences. “Critical Theory” in the narrow sense designates several generations of German philosophers and social theorists in the Western European Marxist tradition known as the Frankfurt School.

While Critical Theory is often thought of narrowly as referring to the Frankfurt School that begins with Horkheimer and Adorno and stretches to Marcuse and Habermas, any philosophical approach with similar practical aims could be called a “critical theory,” including feminism, critical race theory, and some forms of post-colonial criticism.

Given the emphasis among the first generation of Critical Theory on human beings as the self-creating producers of their own history, a unique practical aim of social inquiry suggests itself: to transform contemporary capitalism into a consensual form of social life.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/critical-theory/

Allison Bailey explaining how Critical Pedagogy is different than Critical Thinking:

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Critical pedagogy begins from a different set of assumptions rooted in the neo-Marxian literature on critical theory commonly associated with the Frankfurt School. Here, the critical learner is someone who is empowered and motivated to seek justice and emancipation. Critical pedagogy regards the claims that students make in response to social-justice issues not as propositions to be assessed for their truth value, but as expressions of power that function to re- inscribe and perpetuate social inequalities. Its mission is to teach students ways of identifying and mapping how power shapes our understandings of the world. This is the first step toward resisting and transforming social injustices. By interrogating the politics of knowledge-production, this tradition also calls into question the uses of the accepted critical-thinking toolkit to determine epistemic adequacy. To extend Audre Lorde’s classic metaphor, the tools of the critical-thinking tradition (for example, validity, soundness, conceptual clarity) cannot dismantle the master’s house: they can temporarily beat the master at his own game, but they can never bring about any enduring structural change (Lorde 1984, 112). They fail because the critical thinker’s toolkit is commonly invoked in particular settings, at particular times to reassert power: Those adept with the tools often use them to restore an order that assures their comfort. They can be habitually invoked to defend our epistemic home terrains.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile...ication_detail

So the people pushing Critical Social Justice and know it is a subset of Marxist ideology. They dumped class and picked up culture (identity) if it wasn’t completely and utterly obvious…

“It” always looked, spoke and farted like a Marxist but no one knew the playbook. No one knew what computer they were using and what operating systems and what apps and what the goals were. Now we know. Thankfully it came when only 10% of the population has joined the cult. I’m sorry, they’re lost right now. When they come back we can accept them back with no hard feelings but right now they’re trying to subvert the US into accepting what it couldn’t pass through the system legally and they’re more than willing to take extralegal measures like manufactured protests and fake riots to instill fear into the population into believing their neo-Racist neo-Marxist is the only way forward.

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13. As a result, there is a growing loss of the sense of history, which leads to even further breakup. A kind of “deconstructionism”, whereby human freedom claims to create everything starting from zero, is making headway in today’s culture. The one thing it leaves in its wake is the drive to limitless consumption and expressions of empty individualism. Concern about this led me to offer the young some advice. “If someone tells young people to ignore their history, to reject the experiences of their elders, to look down on the past and to look forward to a future that he himself holds out, doesn’t it then become easy to draw them along so that they only do what he tells them? He needs the young to be shallow, uprooted and distrustful, so that they can trust only in his promises and act according to his plans. That is how various ideologies operate: they destroy (or deconstruct) all differences so that they can reign unopposed. To do so, however, they need young people who have no use for history, who spurn the spiritual and human riches inherited from past generations, and are ignorant of everything that came before them”.[10]
https://www.vatican.va/content/franc...OdGcuBkGOlyyRA

That’s all I have for this particular sub-forum. These items have been discussed in the links previously posted.

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Old 05-30-2021, 09:38 AM
 
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"Treason" was the BLM/antifa mob storming the White House and forcing the evacuation of the president to the safety of the bunker, not some misguided protesters going on an unauthorized tour of the Capital.
IM sorry let me clarify.... as you appear to be whitewashing what took place on the capital...

Seditious Conspiracy...


AND LMAO at any BLM storming the white house..... they would have been shot on the spot....

last post in this troll thread... people like you who lie to themselves will be the end of this countries prominence...
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