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[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Tenzo

Other way around.
I have a license, adress, pay taxes and vote in Hawaii.

I'm just not there enough and unfortunatly will be dropping my lease in September.

You have some things to consider when you give up your physical residence in Hawaii.

You cannot register to vote in Hawaii without a physical address in Hawaii.

http://hawaii.gov/elections/forms/voter_application.pdf

Your bank will require a physical address - but can send mail to mailing address. This is to stop money laundering.

Your drivers license will require a physical address. In case you are bad guy - they want to know where to pick you up.

etc, etc.....

[Tenzo]

What do people do who go to school on the mainland?
(assuming you dont live with your parents)

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Tenzo

What do people do who go to school on the mainland?
(assuming you dont live with your parents)

Here are some examples in this link where one is still considered a Hawaii Resident even without a physical presence - unfortunately, it doesn't address things like drivers license, voter registration, etc - perhaps for those things if you are considered a Hawaii resident based on the link provided you can provide out of state physical presence for those things.

http://1040abroad.net63.net/docs/sta...0residency.pdf

[PacificFlights]

Originally Posted by Tenzo

What do people do who go to school on the mainland?
(assuming you dont live with your parents)

If they don't have a physical address on Hawaii, they are no longer a Hawaii resident. Most use, parents, relatives or friends addresses as their addresss. There are some special exemptions and alternatives for students, missionaries, humanitarian workers, etc., who are temporary away from their residence, but they still must have that physical location.

From Hawaii state law a resident is a person who has a physical domicile in the state and is residing in the state. A domicile is a legally recognized, true and fixed premise for where you reside. You can;t reside inside the actual P.O. box, or some remailing service slot or a private mail box.

[Tenzo]

Originally Posted by whtviper1

Here are some examples in this link where one is still considered a Hawaii Resident even without a physical presence - unfortunately, it doesn't address things like drivers license, voter registration, etc - perhaps for those things if you are considered a Hawaii resident based on the link provided you can provide out of state physical presence for those things.

http://1040abroad.net63.net/docs/sta...0residency.pdf

Perfect!

It has a specific section for people who are out of state for employment.

I like the: "
[LEFT]If, however, an individual is in Hawaii to improve the individual's health and the[/LEFT]
individual's illness is of such a character as to require a long or indefinite period to recuperate"

I get pale and cranky if I don't get to Sandy beach on a regular basis.

[PacificFlights]

Originally Posted by Tenzo

Perfect!

It has a specific section for people who are out of state for employment.

But you still must have that domicile residence; meaning a physical location you call your home. Thats the clincher is that without a physical location you can point to and call your home, all the exemptions don't apply. If you have a home on hawaii, you basically have to give up and meet the non resident criteria not to be considered a resident, but withoiut a physical place to park your butt, you have little ability to claim residency in your case.

[Tenzo]

Originally Posted by PacificFlights

But you still must have that domicile residence; meaning a physical location you call your home. Thats the clincher is that without a physical location you can point to and call your home, all the exemptions don't apply. If you have a home on hawaii, you basically have to give up and meet the non resident criteria not to be considered a resident, but withoiut a physical place to park your butt, you have little ability to claim residency in your case.

How do the guys in the tents do it?

[OpenD]

Maybe we just do it different on the Big Island, but I'm looking at my Hawai'i driver's license right now, and it definitely has my PO Box on it. Only.

And I have a buddy in Kurtistown who has lived in one place for 25 years, and when I asked him for his address to put into my GPS his reply was "I don't know. I've never used it." He's got a PO Box, that's it.

A lot of communities on the BI have no mail delivery, and all the residents get free mailboxes instead. All I had to do was show my electric bill (addressed to map 7, pole 5, or somesuch) to get it.

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by OpenD

Maybe we just do it different on the Big Island, but I'm looking at my Hawai'i driver's license right now, and it definitely has my PO Box on it. Only.

And I have a buddy in Kurtistown who has lived in one place for 25 years, and when I asked him for his address to put into my GPS his reply was "I don't know. I've never used it." He's got a PO Box, that's it.

A lot of communities on the BI have no mail delivery, and all the residents get free mailboxes instead. All I had to do was show my electric bill (addressed to map 7, pole 5, or somesuch) to get it.

Your license can have a mailing address - however:

At some point you gave the DMV a real physical location - from the Big Island site:



Proof of Residency – all documents must show driver’s name and current address

• Utility bill
• Residential rental agreement
• Bank statement (dated not more than two months from date of application)
• Hawaii vehicle registration (dated not more than thirty days from date of application)
• Paycheck/stub (dated not more than two months from date of application)

County of Hawaii - Drivers License General Information

You can't prove residency with just a PO Box. If your electric bill says Pole 5, map 7 - they know where to find you. It is a physical location.

[OpenD]

Yeah, but once you qualify for the license, from there out they use the mailing address, for renewals, etc. And when I got mine, they made it on the spot and I walked out with the laminated final version in my pocket. But now they give you a paper copy and the permanent license is mailed to you a couple of weeks later, to the only address they can mail it to if you are rural, your PO Box.

I suppose it's possible they have a "Do Not Forward" restriction on that mailing. I won't be able to check that for a few more years until mine comes up for renewal.

But if so, I wonder if that would apply to Premium Forwarding, which is normally used for vacation type forwarding, and does not generate an "Address Service" notice to the mailer like regular forwarding does?