Is Columbus approaching the same level as Cincinnati and Cleveland. (Dayton: neighborhood, college)

[motorman]

Originally Posted by db108108

The difference is that Columbus posters on these forums don't constantly post about how you MUST include those cities in its tallies. I don't think that I've ever read one post to that effect. Is there that much of an inferiority complex in the Cleve and Cincy?...

Apparently, you really don't understand why you keep hearing about either "NEO" or "CIN-DAY."

First: both Cleveland and Cincinnati are inter-connected to sizable "satellite-cities" in ways that Columbus isn't and will never be; second: neither Cleveland nor Cincinnati feel "inferior" to Columbus, other than they aren't able to host one of the nation's largest, state-supported mega-universities nor feed off their state's public tax-payer trough as does Columbus; and third: neither Cleveland nor Cincinnati have relied on annexation as has Columbus to boost their city's "populations" and status in the public eye--so naturally, they're going to remind outsiders of both their own formidable MSA-stats and exhibit all those nasty, highly-relevant, night-time satellite-photos reminding everyone in Columbus of what actually is.

Columbus has progressed in many ways and become a vibrant metro and a city of recognition. Some time ago it broke away from its long-standing, bland cowtown/"Hopalong" Cassady/Woody Hayes image, but now it needs to do much more than that. As Cleveland and Cincinnati have already done, well over a century ago, Columbus needs to establish its own unique cultural heritage and quit relying upon OSU, state-government, and the governor to wing it into the future. Otherwise, both Columbus and Indianapolis, its I-70 prairie-counterpart, will share remarkably similar fates.

[1watertiger]

Jbc, you are correct. But stii falls short of the cleve and cincy freeway systems.

[1watertiger]

Jbc, you are correct. But columbus still falls short of the cleve and cincy freeway systems.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

Jbc, you are correct. But stii falls short of the cleve and cincy freeway systems.

Even if that were true, I would consider that a positive.

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Even if that were true, I would consider that a positive.

Was gonna say the same thing.

[jbcmh81]

Columbus Recognized as Top City for Equality by the Human Rights Campaign

This doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the topic, but I'm not sure where else to put it. Columbus had a perfect score. Cincinnati was 2nd, Cleveland 3rd in Ohio.

[1watertiger]

JBC,BJ of course you do. but its true. and IF Columbus were to ever reach the same levels of cincy or Cleveland, ( in terms of developed/urban/suburban sq. miles), Columbus would have to build more freeways like the other 2 C's did. especially since Columbus is sorely lacking public transit or any type of light rail. which is another "level" Columbus is lagging far behind Cleveland and cincy on. I agree with motormans post above, especially his point about those night-time satalite images of ohio. they show how truly small Columbus metro really is, even after all the huge growth she has experienced over the past 30yrs. <jbc and bj

[bjimmy24]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

JBC,BJ of course you do. but its true. and IF Columbus were to ever reach the same levels of cincy or Cleveland, ( in terms of developed/urban/suburban sq. miles), Columbus would have to build more freeways like the other 2 C's did. especially since Columbus is sorely lacking public transit or any type of light rail. which is another "level" Columbus is lagging far behind Cleveland and cincy on. I agree with motormans post above, especially his point about those night-time satalite images of ohio. they show how truly small Columbus metro really is, even after all the huge growth she has experienced over the past 30yrs. <jbc and bj

Bro, I'm a native Clevelander. I actually agree with you about a lot you're saying kinda. But you're just a horrible spokesman for my native and favorite city. You and motorman should start a club for being terrible representatives.

[1watertiger]

^(the "bro" is native). your saying you don't even live in Cleveland or ohio anymore? geeeezz. now us "clevelanders or ohioans" are going to have to take your comments about our state/cities with a grain of salt? what about you jbc, are you "native" also or don't you live in ohio either? because I was really hoping we could all get back on the OP's topic of how Columbus is lacking behind Cleveland and cincy on many levels.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

JBC,BJ of course you do. but its true. and IF Columbus were to ever reach the same levels of cincy or Cleveland, ( in terms of developed/urban/suburban sq. miles), Columbus would have to build more freeways like the other 2 C's did. especially since Columbus is sorely lacking public transit or any type of light rail. which is another "level" Columbus is lagging far behind Cleveland and cincy on. I agree with motormans post above, especially his point about those night-time satalite images of ohio. they show how truly small Columbus metro really is, even after all the huge growth she has experienced over the past 30yrs. <jbc and bj

I'm not sure what you mean by "developed" square miles. The Urban Area of Columbus, meaning continuous development, is the most dense of any of the 3-Cs and is 3rd in the Midwest. The overall city density will pass up Cincinnati likely this year or next year, and it's closing on Cleveland. Columbus is unfairly stereotyped in this regard constantly.

The last thing Columbus needs is more highways. It DOES need public transit beyond buses, but that will come. If the Chicago-Columbus HSR line gets built, I do think that will be a good test.

NEO and Cin-Day are still just dreams by a few people and not reality. I've said this before, but the constant focus on satellite cities reminds me of the '80s shoulder pad fad. Stuffing doesn't make you better. It makes you look desperate.