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Brent Larkin, the Cleveland Plain Dealer's long-time editorial director, laments in this column Mike DeWine's unconstrained support for Trump and contrasts it with John Kasich's criticisms of Trump.
Yet this paragraph likely is even more consequential:
<<But Cordray’s most daunting problem in this campaign is one he can’t control: Ohio’s inexorable descent into red-state status, a development that has coincided with a stunning decline in its demographics related to education, workforce readiness, poverty and population.>>
Brent Larkin, the Cleveland Plain Dealer's long-time editorial director, laments in this column Mike DeWine's unconstrained support for Trump and contrasts it with John Kasich's criticisms of Trump.
Yet this paragraph likely is even more consequential:
<<But Cordray’s most daunting problem in this campaign is one he can’t control: Ohio’s inexorable descent into red-state status, a development that has coincided with a stunning decline in its demographics related to education, workforce readiness, poverty and population.>>
larkin is a far left liberal who needs to go away. anyone and anything against trump that's his story line. Not once reported anything good in two years regarding our president.
I think the article is over the top. Ohio is not a red state; it experienced the same post-Obama wave that the rest of the Midwest did, in part because there is little support for the Clintons in the industrial midwest, because of NAFTA. I think that Biden could have won, with his Rust Belt bonafides, but Clinton was too establishment. Ohio's demographics look bad because the state loses about the same percentage as other states of young people to hipper places like Chicago, New York and Seattle, but doesn't attract people in large numbers for any reason - retirement, strong economy, lifestyle, etc. Ohio is not a destination for anyone, really, anymore, though Columbus could be emerging - but that doesn't mean the state's in terrible shape.
larkin is a far left liberal who needs to go away. anyone and anything against trump that's his story line. Not once reported anything good in two years regarding our president.
And the most important issue facing the U.S. and the world is man-made climate change. It poses an existential threat to humanity, the U.S., and to Ohioans. Trump is the Denier-in-Chief, who actually promotes policies to increase fossil fuel consumption. DeWine is one of Trump's enablers, on this and other issues. You are a man-made climate change denier, not a conservative on the most important issue facing Ohioans and mankind. This has been documented in the following thread.
Larkin explains in these posts how Ohio Republicans have not only enabled Trump, they've also slashed public school educational spending in inflation-adjusted dollars and failed to boost Ohio's economy, all while providing massive tax cuts to the state's wealthy and even to business owners who don't reside in Ohio.
Larkin explains Ohio's plunge into a red state society
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Originally Posted by dodeca
I think the article is over the top. Ohio is not a red state; it experienced the same post-Obama wave that the rest of the Midwest did, in part because there is little support for the Clintons in the industrial midwest, because of NAFTA. I think that Biden could have won, with his Rust Belt bonafides, but Clinton was too establishment. Ohio's demographics look bad because the state loses about the same percentage as other states of young people to hipper places like Chicago, New York and Seattle, but doesn't attract people in large numbers for any reason - retirement, strong economy, lifestyle, etc. Ohio is not a destination for anyone, really, anymore, though Columbus could be emerging - but that doesn't mean the state's in terrible shape.
These Larkin columns explicitly explain exactly how John Kasich, DeWine and Ohio's Republicans have plunged Ohio towards a red state society. This should be an important focus of the current gubernatorial election.
In order to maintain services as the Republicans slashed local government and public school funding, there have been massive increases in local taxation, such as a 25 percent increase in municipal income taxes in most major cities. In Cuyahoga County, the Cleveland Metropark system had to take over Cleveland's lakefront parks as Kasich and the Republicans refused to adequately fund and maintain them. This resulted in a significant increase in the Cleveland Metropark real estate levy.
Of course, municipal income taxes and real estate taxes fall more heavily on workers, the poor and the middle class, than does the state's progressive income tax, especially after the Republicans have exempted much small business income from taxation. Regressive tax systems characterize red state societies.
Of course, some now poor communities such as East Cleveland, once one of Ohio's wealthiest communities and a source of funding for the rest of the state, has no tax base to offset the massive cuts in state local government funds. It must rely on used equipment no longer wanted by surrounding communities. The neglect of poor communities and the poor in general is a hallmark of red state societies.
Kasich and the Republicans have slashed mass transit funding to almost nothing and refused to reform the sales tax system to allow mass transit systems to maintain even existing levels of local support.
Are Ohioans concerned about keeping Medicaid expansion, both to support Ohio's medical system and provide funds needed to treat opioid addicts, really trust DeWine on this issue, especially as Ohio's legislative Republicans still are intent on refusing the massive federal windfall associated with Medicaid expansion?
Without Medicaid expansion, Ohio's emergency rooms once again would become responsible for uninsured care for many Ohioans, threatening their ability to care for those with emergencies, and imposing massive financial burdens that may force the closure of emergency rooms and even hospital systems.
Ohio Republicans, including DeWine until this summer, have championed turning the Ohio medical system into that of red state Texas.
DeWine as attorney general never pursued legal action to combat the agricultural pollution that has turned Lake Erie once again into a national joke as toxic algal blooms proliferate in the summer in the western basin. DeWine's indirect support of the Trump EPA means that the federal EPA will never clean up the dumping of manure into the Maumee River basin in Indiana, let alone in Ohio, where a state EPA under Cordray likely will be more active, based on Cordray's campaign pledge. DeWine wants Ohio taxpayers to borrow $1 billion to pay for clean-up rather than just require the corporate livestock operations to stop the pollution.
Tolerance and support of business polluters is another hallmark of a red state society. In DeWine's case, there has been little if any concern about the impairment of northwest Ohio's $10 billion tourism industry during his years as attorney general. He hasn't cared about the significantly increased costs of testing for toxic algae and treating water for communities dependent on Lake Erie as a water source.
And the most important issue facing the U.S. and the world is man-made climate change. It poses an existential threat to humanity, the U.S., and to Ohioans. Trump is the Denier-in-Chief, who actually promotes policies to increase fossil fuel consumption. DeWine is one of Trump's enablers, on this and other issues. You are a man-made climate change denier, not a conservative on the most important issue facing Ohioans and mankind. This has been documented in the following thread.
Larkin explains in these posts how Ohio Republicans have not only enabled Trump, they've also slashed public school educational spending in inflation-adjusted dollars and failed to boost Ohio's economy, all while providing massive tax cuts to the state's wealthy and even to business owners who don't reside in Ohio.
Keep peddling your rubbish, MMCC is a money-making scheme and another method for the globalistas to cut the evil USA down to size. If ANYONE was serious about the "actions" then Red China and India and other massive polluters would not be given until 2030 for their "voluntary" compliance.
The world is going to end in 10 years. Maybe eight. So buy some ice cream and cool off.
Keep peddling your rubbish, MMCC is a money-making scheme and another method for the globalistas to cut the evil USA down to size. If ANYONE was serious about the "actions" then Red China and India and other massive polluters would not be given until 2030 for their "voluntary" compliance.
The world is going to end in 10 years. Maybe eight. So buy some ice cream and cool off.
We get it. You're a man-made climate change denier with no respect for empirical information and the warnings of the world's climate and marine scientists.
Persons should read through the following thread, but pay special attention to post 39, which is erroneous in stating that annual carbon dioxide emissions associated with global fossil fuel burning are only 5.5 billion metric tons annually. The number is actually 35 billion metric tons. Do you deny that carbon dioxide is a by-product of fossil fuel burning. What happens when its released into the atmosphere in massive quantities. Why do you think there are no negative consequences. Post 39 debunks your denier propaganda in detail.
Do you deny that the oceans are becoming more acidic as the oceans absorb carbon dioxide and it is converted to carbonic acid?
Your ignorant rant supports denier politicians such as Trump and all of his Republican supporters in Ohio, including Rob Portman, Michael DeWine, and Jim Renacci. Persons actually capable of reading and analysis can read the above thread and understand the necessity of transitioning away from fossil fuel consumption as rapidly as possible.
I think the article is over the top. Ohio is not a red state; it experienced the same post-Obama wave that the rest of the Midwest did, in part because there is little support for the Clintons in the industrial midwest, because of NAFTA. I think that Biden could have won, with his Rust Belt bonafides, but Clinton was too establishment. Ohio's demographics look bad because the state loses about the same percentage as other states of young people to hipper places like Chicago, New York and Seattle, but doesn't attract people in large numbers for any reason - retirement, strong economy, lifestyle, etc. Ohio is not a destination for anyone, really, anymore, though Columbus could be emerging - but that doesn't mean the state's in terrible shape.
I agree. It could very well flip blue with solid populist candidates. Cordray will hopefully win, but he isn't that guy. Richard Ojeda is flipping his district in West Virginia with a populist message that's connecting with Trump voters.
In terms of population growth, more than anything it's the jobs. The region boomed on job growth and free-fell on job loss.
Texas has warm weather, too warm of weather for me. Same for Phoenix, Austin, Florida, etc. People aren't moving there for the weather (maybe some retirees)... or the landscape... or the culture... or the "lifestyle"... It's for the jobs.
If Apple establishes HQ2 in Ohio, people move here. If Amazon does, same thing. Boeing, Tesla, a few Big Banks... you wouldn't be hearing how poor and crappy Ohio is.
Instead, other states are winning those. They're growing their tax bases and reinvesting it into the other areas that matter to people.
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I agree. It could very well flip blue with solid populist candidates. Cordray will hopefully win, but he isn't that guy. Richard Ojeda is flipping his district in West Virginia with a populist message that's connecting with Trump voters.
In terms of population growth, more than anything it's the jobs. The region boomed on job growth and free-fell on job loss.
Texas has warm weather, too warm of weather for me. Same for Phoenix, Austin, Florida, etc. People aren't moving there for the weather (maybe some retirees)... or the landscape... or the culture... or the "lifestyle"... It's for the jobs.
If Apple establishes HQ2 in Ohio, people move here. If Amazon does, same thing. Boeing, Tesla, a few Big Banks... you wouldn't be hearing how poor and crappy Ohio is.
Instead, other states are winning those. They're growing their tax bases and reinvesting it into the other areas that matter to people.
You don't get more jobs when you cut the quality of public education and universities. Work force productivity and employer profits require a highly skilled work force in the 21st century.
larkin is a far left liberal who needs to go away. anyone and anything against trump that's his story line. Not once reported anything good in two years regarding our president.
I would never call Larkin a far left liberal. Ever.
He's no fan of Kucinich as the mayor (or as a Presidential candidate) and was certainly pro-Voinovich in many respects. If anything, he's a pro-business, pro-Chamber of Commerce middle-of-the-roader (remember when that was considered "being a Republican?"). He does have a left-leaning civic conscience, perhaps. He does seem to respect Cleveland's long history in that regard.
He's no fan of Trump, but that doesn't mean he's a radical leftist. Many, including Republicans, aren't fans of Trump either. I'd bet Larkin's probably just tired of Trump's "non-Presidential" comportment.
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Larkin explains Ohio's plunge into a red state society
