Dayton+Cincinnati=Good? (Hamilton, Middletown, Miamisburg: school, beach, suburb)

[pontiac51]

Originally Posted by unusualfire

That source says nothing about specific county to county in Ohio.

A few years ago, maybe even last year, if your clicked on one of the counties, the county to county info was available. Both the inflow and outflow was given for each county. Obviously, this webpage has changed.

[unusualfire]

Honestly I have been following the whole combining the past few census now. It is close to merger now. The urbanized area's are already connected.

[chet_kinkaid]

boston to washington is one urbanized area alot more contiguous and heavily populated..should bosh wash be one city so all the mid size ohio cities can move up in the rankings??distance is a factor,im in advertising,the criteria we look at when looking at a metro area is the actual number of people,the demographics etc within a certain radius from the center city .cincy could add dayton and even toledo to their csa but it wont change one thing. cincy has a certain number of people living within a certain radius from the city and the farther out they are from the center you get diminishing returns on advertising.btw go reds!!!

[hensleya1]

Originally Posted by chet_kinkaid

boston to washington is one urbanized area alot more contiguous and heavily populated..should bosh wash be one city so all the mid size ohio cities can move up in the rankings??distance is a factor,im in advertising,the criteria we look at when looking at a metro area is the actual number of people,the demographics etc within a certain radius from the center city .cincy could add dayton and even toledo to their csa but it wont change one thing. cincy has a certain number of people living within a certain radius from the city and the farther out they are from the center you get diminishing returns on advertising.btw go reds!!!

Hi chet_kinkaid--

The difference between Boston-Washington and Cincinnati-Dayton is that as a general rule, if you live in one city, you work in that city. The traffic and cost of transportation often makes it impractical to live in say, Philly, and work in Baltimore - you'd just move.

Not so if you lived in say, West Chester and could commute to Cincinnati or Dayton. Or if you had a Cincinnati office and also served clients in Dayton, or vice versa.

From West Chester, it's actually quicker and easier to get north to Miamisburg than it is to get south to Cincinnati because I-75's upgrades are finally complete and there's no traffic snarls at rush hour. Meaning that any business has an enormous competitive advantage by locating in between the two cities and serving clients from both cities. Hence the location of the Cincinnati Premium Outlets in Monroe, Trader's World, and the development along Liberty Way and Tylersville Road.

[cali3448893]

I hate it when people say...ex. well Baltimore and d.c. are connected yet their separated...reason why i hate it is because those cities have people living in their city and working in it too. Nobody is commuting to lets say Baltimore to d.c. or d.c. to Baltimore with Cincinnati and Dayton alot of people commute from Dayton to cincy or cincy to Dayton....just wanted to point that out their!

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by cali3448893

Nobody is commuting to lets say Baltimore to d.c.

Commuting to Washington DC from Baltimore MD - Commuting from Baltimore to Washington DC - Driving from Baltimore to Washington

Right.

[cali3448893]

Originally Posted by TomJones123

Commuting to Washington DC from Baltimore MD - Commuting from Baltimore to Washington DC - Driving from Baltimore to Washington

Right.

I was using it as an example...right

[JoeP]

That was a horrible example. DC and Baltimore are two areas blended together with a lot of people working in one and living in another. Cincy and Dayton don't share anywhere near the amount of this pattern. It's just an odd obsession of some forumers who want the population added to Cincy and ignoring that Dayton is its own metro with different dynamics than Cincy and frankly not as close as some other metros that are paired.

[TomJones123]

Originally Posted by JoeP

That was a horrible example. DC and Baltimore are two areas blended together with a lot of people working in one and living in another. Cincy and Dayton don't share anywhere near the amount of this pattern.

Correct.

Originally Posted by JoeP

It's just an odd obsession of some forumers who want the population added to Cincy and ignoring that Dayton is its own metro with different dynamics than Cincy and frankly not as close as some other metros that are paired.

The two metros have grown together and are contiguous. They are already classified as one urbanized area. That the census has not designated it yet does not mean there is not significant growth underway to force the classification at come point.

[Dayton Sux]

They are more connected in Butler and Warren Counties, since these are major employment centers. This is a big deal for people who have both spouses working ....the husband could be working up in the Dayton area, but the wife would be working closer to home in, say, West Chester or Union Center...assuming they live in Butler or Warren ..

This connectivity isnt too obvious if you live in the further reaches of the respective metro areas, say in Boone or Clermont Counties or Greene or Miami Counties.

Physcally, or in terms of "landscape", there is a lot of open space between the subrurban areas of both cities....development at freeway interchanges,but beyond that a lot farmland still (probably more hobby farms at this point).