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Old 01-20-2021, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by timtemtym View Post
Fraudera Ranch!

I have family down there that has been investigated more than once, so this is accurate.
Back in the mortgage financial crisis of around 2008 (when Fraudera got its name), a lot of people in Ladera had lower net worths than vagrants.
Vagrants' net worth was about $0.
Ladera folks' net worth was negative since they were so underwater.
Another misleading thing about Ladera is its population density. It has a relatively low pop density because it is surrounded by so much open space. However if you drive around, it is very cramped, lots of small lots 4500, 6500 square feet, lots of kids turning 16 in the past couple years, lots of cars in the streets.
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Old 01-20-2021, 09:15 PM
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If you're still considering West Grove (what some call West Garden Grove), it's a nice area...but as many cities are facing, WGG is a victim of porch pirates, catalytic converter thefts, people walking the streets in the wee hours checking on unlocked cars, criminals jumping fences and gates to steal bikes, etc. Homelessness is also a problem. Nearby Seal Beach, Cypress, and Westminster's Indian Village report these problems as well. Some of the locals believe easy access from the freeway is a draw for crime, but again, I think everything I've mentioned is a widespread problem for the entire county or perhaps all of SoCal.

The area is pretty conservative with a lot of American pride--American flags, blue ribbons around trees to show support for the police. Good mix of nationalities with white being the majority. Friendliness differ from block to block with some neighborhoods hosting 4th of July block parties and bike parades. During the stay-at-home last year, there were golf cart parades, vintage car parades, etc that snaked around the entire Westside. It's very common to see people take walks, ride bikes, and to see kids outside playing. The local schools open up their gates in the evening and weekends for locals to enter and enjoy. I'm happy to see that no one leaves behind trash or dog waste (I haven't seen any at least).

Schools are well sought out, but I prefer the Westminster School District for their many school programs. Transfers are easy to obtain. A few years ago, Pacifica high water polo students did a Nazi salute or something. I heard there were issues before, but the minority students I know of who attend there haven't had any problems with racism.

The Los Alamitos Air Base is nearby, but it's not like living near the Long Beach airport. Many people, myself included, love to see the aircraft fly overhead. It can be deafening, but to me, it doesn't last long at all, doesn't happen often, and it's a wonderful sight to see the planes fly through.

A lot of the original owners have passed or moved away, so some of the homes come up for sale, but right now, inventory seems really low and prices continue to climb for some reason.

Amazon is also building a warehouse on Knott and the 22 fwy with new offices opening up on Katella and Valley View. Any other questions, let me know.

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Old 01-21-2021, 05:19 PM
Location: OC
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Originally Posted by amokk View Post
Don't think I saw anything mentioned regarding racism?
Post #8 should add some clarity.
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