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Old 09-30-2007, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Orlando Florida
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I am getting a gun for the first time in the state of Florida......I have owned one when i was in Tennessee but it wasnt legal.....i sold that to make money to move here with my mother.......I deliver pizza and i am away from home all night and my mother sleeps there alone.....i plan on buying a gun for the house and one for my car for work because i feel kind of defensless out there delivering pizza...

what would happen if i had a gun at work and someone tryed to rob me and i shot them while sitting in my car.......would i go to jail...or could i plea self defense?


The same thing at home.....what happens when someone breaks in your house and you blow thier f-n kneecap off after they enter?.....LOL.....just a little humor but really do i go to jail or what happens with the laws in these situations?
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Old 09-30-2007, 04:03 PM
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Location: NEFL/Chi, IL
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Florida allows people to get concealed carry permits. You can carry a gun legally with a permit. If you get caught carrying one illegally, then of course, you're subject to the criminal sanctions that go with that.

In Florida (like most all other states) you are allowed to defend yourself or your family if you believe you are in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. There used to be a very arcane requirement in FL law that you first attempt to retreat, but that was removed recently to make FL law in consort with most all other states.

If someone is attacking you and you legitimately feel in danger, you can defend yourself in FL. No, you cannot introduce lethal force into arguments with your neighbor, traffic disputes, etc (which some of the totally ignorant opponents of the recent reworking of FL self defense statutes would try to have you believe). Matter of fact, FL prosecutes the *misuse* of a firearm very harshly under the 10/20/Life provisions. FL is a great state to exercise your gun rights, but a terrible state if you are a criminal using firearms.

As far as the guns themselves, in FL, you are allowed to carry a firearm in a vehicle so long as it's "securely encased" (there is a myth about "three steps"- the gun must be "three steps away" in order to be legal. It's a myth. People have actually been arrested for violating this non-existant "rule" and won civil cases for it)

There is no open carry in FL, but there is concealed carry with a proper permit. Permits are "shall issue" meaning as long as you don't have a felony on your record, a pending restraining order or a domestic violence conviction (basically, as long as you aren't already prohibited from owning a firearm in the first place), you will be approved for a permit to carry one after taking a class and paying a fee. As far as what you can keep in your home, there aren't any restrictions on that, beyond what's already restricted at the Federal level.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Orlando Florida
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Florida allows people to get concealed carry permits. You can carry a gun legally with a permit. If you get caught carrying one illegally, then of course, you're subject to the criminal sanctions that go with that.

In Florida (like most all other states) you are allowed to defend yourself or your family if you believe you are in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. There used to be a very arcane requirement in FL law that you first attempt to retreat, but that was removed recently to make FL law in consort with most all other states.

If someone is attacking you and you legitimately feel in danger, you can defend yourself in FL. No, you cannot introduce lethal force into arguments with your neighbor, traffic disputes, etc (which some of the totally ignorant opponents of the recent reworking of FL self defense statutes would try to have you believe). Matter of fact, FL prosecutes the *misuse* of a firearm very harshly under the 10/20/Life provisions. FL is a great state to exercise your gun rights, but a terrible state if you are a criminal using firearms.

As far as the guns themselves, in FL, you are allowed to carry a firearm in a vehicle so long as it's "securely encased" (there is a myth about "three steps"- the gun must be "three steps away" in order to be legal. It's a myth. People have actually been arrested for violating this non-existant "rule" and won civil cases for it)

There is no open carry in FL, but there is concealed carry with a proper permit. Permits are "shall issue" meaning as long as you don't have a felony on your record, a pending restraining order or a domestic violence conviction (basically, as long as you aren't already prohibited from owning a firearm in the first place), you will be approved for a permit to carry one after taking a class and paying a fee. As far as what you can keep in your home, there aren't any restrictions on that, beyond what's already restricted at the Federal level.


Thanks for that info..i appreciate that...ill give you some rep......

How much do you think the class is to get the permitt?
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:40 AM
 
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Do you have to take the class if you are a US armed forces veteran?
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:23 PM
 
Location: arrlando, flarida
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thaspecial, classes and permit is about 300 dollars i believe. maybe more.

i thought about putting one in my vehicle, but i am worried about the 3 step rule and if i understand it exactly. on the other hand, in your own home, you can shoot if they are inside your house, so you can "blow their f-n knee caps off"
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:30 PM
 
Location: southern california
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I am getting a gun for the first time in the state of Florida......I have owned one when i was in Tennessee but it wasnt legal.....i sold that to make money to move here with my mother.......I deliver pizza and i am away from home all night and my mother sleeps there alone.....i plan on buying a gun for the house and one for my car for work because i feel kind of defensless out there delivering pizza...

what would happen if i had a gun at work and someone tryed to rob me and i shot them while sitting in my car.......would i go to jail...or could i plea self defense?


The same thing at home.....what happens when someone breaks in your house and you blow thier f-n kneecap off after they enter?.....LOL.....just a little humor but really do i go to jail or what happens with the laws in these situations?
well lets put it this way. if they are jailing the cops for shooting back at the bad guys, whudaya think they will do to you?
get yourself some pepper spray keep it on your person. take that gun out of the car right now.
if you plan to shoot somebody in the house, you better get a real good lawyer first. if lucky you might not go to jail. the majority of crimes in the home in san diego occur thru an unlocked door or window. so if you lock the doors and windows just think, you wont have to kill anybody.
leave the killing of bad guys to the cops and military. lots of legal action always follows. your priority should not be getting the bad guys straightened out. your priority should be the same as mine
taking care of my mother lets do it.
im with you brother.
stephen s
san diego ca
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:41 PM
 
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Do you have to take the class if you are a US armed forces veteran?
no, you need your dd214, you make application through the dept. of agriculture.Concealed Weapons or Firearm Program - Division of Licensing, DOACS
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:54 PM
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Location: NEFL/Chi, IL
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i thought about putting one in my vehicle, but i am worried about the 3 step rule and if i understand it exactly.
There is no "three step rule". It's a total myth made up by cops.
Laws are determined by statutes- not rumors or abstract interpretations theorized by legal laypeople.

In Florida, the statute is clear as a bell. If you're transporting a firearm in a vehicle or private conveyance, it must be "securely encased" in order to be legal. This means that you can have a loaded sidearm- cocked with a round in the chamber- sitting on the passenger seat next to you, so long as it is "securely encased", you're within the purviews of the law.

Now, don't get me wrong. Cops absolutely don't understand this- but if they arrest you for it, you will win a nice civil suit (and there is clear precedence on this exact issue), as they cannot arrest you for violating a "cop philosophy" that isn't codified in the law.

All Florida gun owners- including every cop- needs a copy of this book.
Attorney Jon Gutmacher, Author of Florida Firearms: Law, Use and Ownership
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:57 PM
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Location: NEFL/Chi, IL
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if you plan to shoot somebody in the house, you better get a real good lawyer first. if lucky you might not go to jail. the majority of crimes in the home in san diego occur thru an unlocked door or window. so if you lock the doors and windows just think, you wont have to kill anybody.
leave the killing of bad guys to the cops and military. lots of legal action always follows. your priority should not be getting the bad guys straightened out. your priority should be the same as mine
taking care of my mother lets do it.
im with you brother.
stephen s
san diego ca
This post is near total garbage.
In Florida, a citizen in fear for their safety and lawfully defending themselves with a firearm against an attacker who is threatening great bodily harm won't face any prosecutions.
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Old 10-02-2007, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Orlando Florida
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thaspecial, classes and permit is about 300 dollars i believe. maybe more.

i thought about putting one in my vehicle, but i am worried about the 3 step rule and if i understand it exactly. on the other hand, in your own home, you can shoot if they are inside your house, so you can "blow their f-n knee caps off"
thanx for the info and for getting my humor....lol....i gave you some rep for that.
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