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Gender roles have been changing for decades, for the most part becoming less pronounced. Trust me, women are never again going to accept men lazing around the house watching the women do the housework, I don't care whether you're high, awakening, crisis or whatever. Birthrates tend to go up during good economic times and down during recessions/depressions. It may appear to have a bearing on "generation", but it's really economic.
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Originally Posted by 90sman
To add on about the mood throughout each era...
The gap between gender roles have historically been wide during the High, then narrowed down during an Awakening, reach its minimal during the Unraveling and widens again during the Crisis.
For substance abuse (alcohol, drugs, etc.)... the usage rate of these things are low during the High, rises during an Awakening, reaches its peak in the Unraveling and falls during the Crisis.
As for immigration levels... they're low during the High, rises during the Awakening, peaks in the Unraveling and begins to fall in the Crisis.
Birth rates:
High- birth rate is high
Awakening- birth rate falls
Unraveling- birth rate is low
Crisis- birth rate starts to rise
Tolerance for riskiness:
High- low
Awakening-increasing
Unraveling- peaking
Crisis-falling
Right now, we are in the Crisis era and have been in it since 2008. We'll be in this era until the late 2020s, but before 2030. S&H tell of a crisis occurring in 2020 (give or take a few years). It'll be an event similar to WWII, the Civil, the American Revolution, etc. All the past Crisis eras saw major wars roughly 80 years apart that dramatically changed things for society. By the 2020s decade, it'll have been 80 years since the start of WWII. This crisis in 2020 may likely determine what happens with our country and how things are for us in the High. We could break up into multiple countries, we could enter a major war with many countries or we may lose our "superpower" and become like the United Kingdom; a weaker standing in the world. The US constitution may become unrecognizable or we may end up under dictatorship rule.
During this time, Millennials will get into their fighting mode that their archetypes have historically been known for and the sense of community will become omnipresent. People will be fighting for their country and start making sacrifices for themselves.
This is how each generation breaks down with it's archetype:
Homelanders (born 2000+) are Artists.
Millenials (born 1982-2000) are Heros.
Gen-X (born 1961-1981) are Nomads.
Baby Boomers (born 1943-1960) are Prophets.
Silent Generation (born 1925-1942) are Artists.
GI Generation (born 1901-1924) are Heros.
Lost Generation (born 1883-1900) are Nomads.
Missionary Generation (born 1860-1882) are Prophets.
Now the interesting thing as someone else eluded to earlier is that there really aren't any hard and fast rules as it doesn't necessarily matter what generation your grandparents or parents belonged to. Your position is generally determined as being reactionary to whatever generation is in their midlife cycle while you were a young adult.
So, Boomers could have parents that were Silents or GI's. Millenials could have had parents that were Boomers or Gen-Xers, maybe even Silents. What you need to realize is the way these interact.
The GI Generation was shaped by its response to the Lost Generation.
The Silent Generation was shaped by its response to the GI Generation.
The Boomers were shaped by its response to the Silents.
Gen-X was shaped by its response to the Boomers.
The Millenials are being shaped by their response to Gen-X.
The Homelanders will be shaped by their response to the Millenials.
Seeing where you fit into this mold is quite interesting as it can give you a macro level glimpse into what drives a persons behavior or thought process. It can also help see parent/child conflict.
For instance a Gen-X person born to a Boomer should have been a rather contentious parent-child relationship. However, a Gen X person born to a Silent would have been a much more agreeable relationship. Likewise a Millenial born to a Gen-X would have been a contentious or difficult relationship, while a Millenial born to a Boomer would have been much more agreeable.
Another little aside that seems to be a favorit parenting forum topic is people overprotecting their kids these days. This is also a generational flavor that has repeated throughout time.
The Boomers grew up as overindulged children during a High, aka "the good old days", they pretty much got what they wanted.
Gen-X grew up during an Awakening and parents tended to be hands off. Kids roaming the neighborhood, mom not letting you back in until the street lights were on, etc.
Millenials grew up during an unraveling and a time of increasing protection. Gee, kids should probably wear helmets when they ride bikes. Why don't we throw some woodchips under that swingset so no one gets hurt.
Homelanders are growing up in a time when people are pre-occupied with Crisis and become overprotective. Let my kid ride their bike 3 blocks away, are you NUTS, they may get kidnapped. I now let Johnny go to the playground now that he has all that new padding we bought him and we put LoJack in his brain.
Gender roles have been changing for decades, for the most part becoming less pronounced. Trust me, women are never again going to accept men lazing around the house watching the women do the housework, I don't care whether you're high, awakening, crisis or whatever. Birthrates tend to go up during good economic times and down during recessions/depressions. It may appear to have a bearing on "generation", but it's really economic.
You can't take the theory and stuff it into such a microcosm. No, women aren't going to revert back to quasi house slaves, but think of the focus and changing roles of women over the past 80 years and you can see where it places in. They say we are now entering an increasingly pro-male time. Think about, the past few years have seen a strong push for women to choose to breastfeed, to choose to be stay at home moms, to choose to take care of their family, especially while the children are young. This is versus the attitude 20 years ago that epitomized and pushed the idea of the career woman and minimalized men. The focus IS shifting.
20 years ago a woman was looked down upon societally for choosing to breastfeed (what are you a baboon?) and wanting to stay home with the kids (don't you have any ambition? don't you want a career?). Now those things are considered the "right" thing to do.
As far as as birthrates and the economy, well that certainly plays a part, but you can also expand this theory to cover economics as well. Economics and whether it is bull or bear, has as much to do with attitude as it does with underlying business realities. The more positive the attitude toward the economy, the better it performs.
Absolutely fascinating. Is Strauss and Howe accessible reading for the layperson?
It most certainly is. Their books aren't written to be overly technical and they are easily understood by the layperson. They also provide a lot of reference materials to refer to when reading. For instance, the little "chart" I posted is something you would find in their books to help put it all into perspective.
Having given birth 21 years ago, I can assure you breastfeeding was not looked down upon. It was very actively encouraged. It may not have been as accessible for working mothers but it was definitely encouraged.
GOAT: Never, ever, lecture a Boomer on what happened 20 years ago.
Just trust me on this. If somebody remembers where they were when JFK was shot you do NOT want to lecture them on their own history.
lol, well 20 years ago wasn't necessarily "Boomer time". Culture, at least popular culture is generally shaped by the young adults aka the 20-40 somethings. 20 years ago it was the alienated, pragmatic, individual Gen-Xers that were setting the standard. Now, we see a shift as the energetic, team oriented, optimist, civic minded Millenials are now beginning to dominate the culture.
I don't want to derail this into a breastfeeding thread, I regret even mentioning it. Though despite what people may have been encouraged to do by the medical community, society in general didn't necessarily share that view.
Discussing this stuff really requires you to step back from your own position and take a big picture view. Look at general trends, not specific things.
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