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Old 01-12-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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1. This story is tragic, but actually has nothing to do with kissing babies, as no one visited the child and neither parent has HSV.
2. Ninety percent of adults in the UShave been exposed to the virus, meaning they can potentially carry and expose others to it regardless of whether or not the get outbreaks. Are you going to keep all adults from kissing babies, including their parents?
WHO | Herpes simplex virus
Persistence in the population: epidemiology, transmission - Human Herpesviruses - NCBI Bookshelf
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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Ok now it starts


FACT: most adults have been exposed to the herpes virus


BUT


THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS


there is genital herpes and Chicken Pox<<<BOTH the herpes virus but Different Types


we have ALL been exposed to chicken pox (almost)


MOST have NOT been exposed to the genital type which is the type that causes most concern


If you have genital herpes YOU KNOW ABOUT IT as it has symptoms which are extremely well defined


Genital herpes may/may not be the type that is present on the lips


Either way it is an infection a grown person with adequate immunity can withstand


A newborn baby cannot.


Doesn't matter if theres an active sore or not


To be on the safe side Do Not Kiss Newborns who have yet to be immunized


Chicken pox used to kill children that's WHY they immunize!!


The end.
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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Ok now it starts


FACT: most adults have been exposed to the herpes virus


BUT


THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS


there is genital herpes and Chicken Pox<<<BOTH the herpes virus but Different Types


we have ALL been exposed to chicken pox (almost)


MOST have NOT been exposed to the genital type which is the type that causes most concern


If you have genital herpes YOU KNOW ABOUT IT as it has symptoms which are extremely well defined


Genital herpes may/may not be the type that is present on the lips


Either way it is an infection a grown person with adequate immunity can withstand


A newborn baby cannot.


Doesn't matter if theres an active sore or not


To be on the safe side Do Not Kiss Newborns who have yet to be immunized


Chicken pox used to kill children that's WHY they immunize!!


The end.

Hmmm, where to begin.


Herpes simplex 1 is known as oral herpes and it's very common. It's most commonly found on the mouth but can be on other parts of the body as it is spread via direct contact.


Herpes Simplex 2 is what is known as genital herpes. It's also common.


Chicken pox is NOT herpes. It is varicella.


Herpes can be spread either during or just prior to an outbreak. Most people can feel tingling which signals that an outbreak is near. There is no evidence that this baby died as a result of someone with herpes kissing this baby on the lips. There is no vaccine for herpes either.
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Old 01-12-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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Ok now it starts


FACT: most adults have been exposed to the herpes virus


BUT


THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS


there is genital herpes and Chicken Pox<<<BOTH the herpes virus but Different Types


we have ALL been exposed to chicken pox (almost)


MOST have NOT been exposed to the genital type which is the type that causes most concern


If you have genital herpes YOU KNOW ABOUT IT as it has symptoms which are extremely well defined


Genital herpes may/may not be the type that is present on the lips


Either way it is an infection a grown person with adequate immunity can withstand


A newborn baby cannot.


Doesn't matter if theres an active sore or not


To be on the safe side Do Not Kiss Newborns who have yet to be immunized


Chicken pox used to kill children that's WHY they immunize!!


The end.
Are you serious?

The two types of herpes are Herpes simplex virus one,aka HSV1, which is what causes cold sores, and HSV-2 which is what causes genital herpes.

Chicken pox is a completely different virus causes Varicella, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HERPES.

No one is vaccinated for any type of HSV.

This is the most misinformed post I have ever seen on CD. Impressive.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:24 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Bonnie Jean McGee View Post
Ok now it starts


FACT: most adults have been exposed to the herpes virus


BUT


THERE ARE DIFFERENT KINDS


there is genital herpes and Chicken Pox<<<BOTH the herpes virus but Different Types


we have ALL been exposed to chicken pox (almost)


MOST have NOT been exposed to the genital type which is the type that causes most concern


If you have genital herpes YOU KNOW ABOUT IT as it has symptoms which are extremely well defined


Genital herpes may/may not be the type that is present on the lips


Either way it is an infection a grown person with adequate immunity can withstand


A newborn baby cannot.


Doesn't matter if theres an active sore or not


To be on the safe side Do Not Kiss Newborns who have yet to be immunized


Chicken pox used to kill children that's WHY they immunize!!


The end.
This is complete bull****. Again, educate yourself.
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Old 01-14-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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Are you serious?

The two types of herpes are Herpes simplex virus one,aka HSV1, which is what causes cold sores, and HSV-2 which is what causes genital herpes.

Chicken pox is a completely different virus causes Varicella, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HERPES.

No one is vaccinated for any type of HSV.

This is the most misinformed post I have ever seen on CD. Impressive.


OK now to be fair varicella-zoster virus is part of the herpes viruses group.

No one should be kissing babies/children on the mouth.
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Old 01-14-2016, 03:30 PM
 
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Sometimes an adult face is so much larger than a baby face that some of the baby lips get kissed accidently..
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Old 01-14-2016, 07:07 PM
 
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OK now to be fair varicella-zoster virus is part of the herpes viruses group.

No one should be kissing babies/children on the mouth.
1. Being in the same family does not make them equivalent or even remotely the same disease.
2. The child in the OP did not have chicken pox.
3. The odds of an adult having chicken pox or shingles and not knowing it let alone then passing it on to a newborn has got to be even smaller than giving a newborn HSV-1.
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:35 PM
 
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1. Being in the same family does not make them equivalent or even remotely the same disease.
2. The child in the OP did not have chicken pox.
3. The odds of an adult having chicken pox or shingles and not knowing it let alone then passing it on to a newborn has got to be even smaller than giving a newborn HSV-1.
YOU said that chicken pox has nothing to do with herpes which is not true, that is why I made that comment. That is also why I specifically said herpes viruses group.
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Old 01-15-2016, 06:20 AM
 
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YOU said that chicken pox has nothing to do with herpes which is not true, that is why I made that comment. That is also why I specifically said herpes viruses group.
Context matters.

When you quote a post in a reply it is understood that the reply is to that post. And yes I stand by the statement that chicken pox has nothing to do with the OP, the post I quoted where the poster stated that the 90% immunity in a prior link was in reference to chicken pox. It is not. The fact that chicken pox and herpes are from a related family is irrelevant to what I and the poster I was quoting were referring to.
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