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Old 08-21-2021, 03:08 AM
 
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Back in the 1970’s I worked while going to school for a financial company as an office boy .

They talked m in to a 50 dollar a month plan ….I had no idea what I owned …all I knew is I got a bill every month and I paid it .

By the time I realized what it was and how expensive the fees and commissions were it grew to an amount that let me at least do something with it .

I started an ira at a very young age and contributed yearly …in the late 1980s the company I worked for started a 401k …I couldn’t contribute much but I did as much as I can .

Before 401ks the company had a profit sharing plan which accumulated over 25 years to over 200k since I was part of mgmt and was not in the union which got a pension .

I ended up rolling that in to my ira when the company folded ..

So between my ira and company 401ks over the decades the retirement account grew to 2 million.

I recently went back in to the company 401k since I worked one day a week and started from scratch throwing my entire check in it , that grew to 50k already and I didn’t work for a year during covid .

So the power of compounding takes the little bits we can save and grows it in to something for meaningful

 
Old 08-21-2021, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Censorshipville...
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I started my Roth around 2002 with 50 monthly contribution. For a while I stopped when I realized the Primerica financial advisor had put me in American funds with front end loads. This was my first investment account and before I qualified for a 401k so I didn't know better. Obviously the commissions weren't making them rich, but for a while I stopped contributing till I figured out I could roll it over it to Fidelity. AF made money, but I didn't like the concept of the loads. I now only add 100 monthly to it and prefer to invest in my tsp and brokerage accounts instead, but after 19 years there is 68k.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I began contributing to my retirement at the age of 16 but didn't know it at the time.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 02:35 PM
 
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Years ago I had a number of direct reports that were not contributing to the 401K even with a dollar for dollar match. They claimed they couldn’t afford it. I sat them down individually and asked if we had a 10% pay cut would you quit this job, all said no. Then you can afford to participate in the 401K. That was thirty years ago and I run into them today and they thank me for pushing them as most are now retired with $500,000 and 600,000 in retirement savings.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 06:57 PM
 
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Years ago I had a number of direct reports that were not contributing to the 401K even with a dollar for dollar match. They claimed they couldn’t afford it. I sat them down individually and asked if we had a 10% pay cut would you quit this job, all said no. Then you can afford to participate in the 401K. That was thirty years ago and I run into them today and they thank me for pushing them as most are now retired with $500,000 and 600,000 in retirement savings.
It’s unprofessional that you looked at all and that you spoke to them about it by asking a question like that.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Oak Bowery
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Originally Posted by mathjak107 View Post
Back in the 1970’s I worked while going to school for a financial company as an office boy .

They talked m in to a 50 dollar a month plan ….I had no idea what I owned …all I knew is I got a bill every month and I paid it .

By the time I realized what it was and how expensive the fees and commissions were it grew to an amount that let me at least do something with it .

I started an ira at a very young age and contributed yearly …in the late 1980s the company I worked for started a 401k …I couldn’t contribute much but I did as much as I can .

Before 401ks the company had a profit sharing plan which accumulated over 25 years to over 200k since I was part of mgmt and was not in the union which got a pension .

I ended up rolling that in to my ira when the company folded ..

So between my ira and company 401ks over the decades the retirement account grew to 2 million.

I recently went back in to the company 401k since I worked one day a week and started from scratch throwing my entire check in it , that grew to 50k already and I didn’t work for a year during covid .

So the power of compounding takes the little bits we can save and grows it in to something for meaningful
It’s interesting isn’t it? You’re a bit older than me and can probably name every stock market crash for the last 50 years. Add a divorce of top of the crashes for me and still, it turned out well for us. Bit by bit, month by month.

Sure, there was a time when we didn’t save much. When my FIL had to go into a nursing home and the exchange rate was 1.5 or less to 1 meaning we had to cover a $4000 bill every month for example. That didn’t last forever. Nothing does. We survived, I started my contributions again and racked up some impressive gains. It worked out.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 09:18 PM
 
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You think everybody has a 33% match?

LMFAO.

Also, see the crash of 2008-2009.

https://money.cnn.com/2009/03/02/pf/...ion=2009030306

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Old 08-21-2021, 11:24 PM
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Location: North Monterey County
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It’s unprofessional that you looked at all and that you spoke to them about it by asking a question like that.
HR and Payroll departments KNOW who is contributing and who is not.

It’s also pretty universal that those who are not contributing probably don’t know where there money is going.

It’s also a possibility that those who do not shore up their retirement will end up on assistance of some kind.

It’s a hard talk to have - but more power to him for having it.

I went from making $50 a paycheck contributions…. To $600 a paycheck contributions. And it hurt then. But it doesn’t now - in retirement.
 
Old 08-21-2021, 11:27 PM
mlb
 
Location: North Monterey County
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When I retired - my employer was not matching at all. Period.

But they were paying our health insurance premiums.

And state retirement costs.
 
Old 08-22-2021, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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a lot of this is simply because houses nowadays are way bigger and nicer than they used to be


the avg middle class house in the 60s was 1300 sqr feet, it's not 2600 sqr feet



and a lot of people buy houses that they have no business buying. If you make 50-60K household income, you shouldn't be buying a 400K house. You just can't afford it
Amen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB52NEPJxUs
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